Re: [anti-spam-wg@localhost] Solution to Spam

[Markus Stumpf <]

On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 02:35:52PM +0000, Mark McCarron wrote:
> Well, that's very strange.  Everyone has suddenly gone VERY quiet.  No one 
> found any holes in the 'GIEIS' system?

Sorry to be harsh, but the system is crap and this will be my only email
on this topic as discussing this system is a waste of time.

We are one of the larger ISPs in Germany (in business since 1993) and
our main orientation is towards business customers. Our mailservers
process about 400000 to 600000 emails a day. Just for the background.

We host e.g. a mail gateway for Inmarsat which is the system that
delivers email to ships around the world via satellite. The
communication with other Inmarsat gates has sometimes 20000 messages
a day and more per gate.

*>    4. The 'EAS' blocks further access for 10 seconds

I'd like to see how we should provide further reliable mail service to
the ships. 20000 * 10 = 200000 seconds = approx. 2.5 days. Thast means
we will produce a backlog of 1.5 days each day.

*> 11. The 'EAS' awaits confirmation requests from 'GIEIS'. After
*>     confirmation the unique ID is removed from the database.
*> [ ... ]
*> 2. The emails are held in tempory storage and the encrypted header
*>    sent to 'GIEIS

Now that is kewl. Single point of failure. A DDoS and the Internet's
mailsystem is down. Oh I forgot it will run on Windows, we don't need a
DoS of any kind at all to bring the Internet's mailsystem down.

*> Close monitoring will be kept on all mailing lists at all times.

*ROTFL* You don't have any idea on the number of mailing lists out
there, do you? Exactly WHO will monitor them and WHO will decide?
I promise you that with each removal of the grant code you will have
a bunch of lawyers hunting down your butt.

> Yesterday, in excess of 500 ISPs were contacted and informed about the 
> system.  The response has been unbelievable to say the least with 90% 
> reporting immediatly that they would adopt such a system.

Sorry, but I am sure this is a lie and I will stick to that until proved
otherwise.

> The paper is now being turned into an RFC, to be released VERY soon.

Go and learn about the processes involved to create a RFC.

> _________________________________________________________________
> Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

Your signature fails
*> NO commercial spam is included in any email transmission.

IMHO you should be removed and banned from this mailing list at once
for spamming. (And of course the mailing list would have the grant code
removed according to your system, as commercial spam was distributed via
the system).

	\Maex

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