[anti-abuse-wg] Brian Krebs posts stophaus chat logs of Spamhaus ddos coordination

You might find "I know it when I see it" as reasonable a definition as this group is ever going to arrive at

--srs

> On 27-Aug-2016, at 6:17 PM, ox <andre at ox.co.za> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:04:53 +0530
> Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> The one takeaway i get from this seems to be that the bad guys are
>> perfectly aware of just where they can find loose or poorly
>> implemented security and abuse policies - who is incompetent, who is
>> malicious, who to abuse, who not to abuse
>> 
>> And action if any gets taken only after significant pressure is
>> applied.
>> 
> true... as per the convo - easy to find a .ru upstream, etc. 
> 
> But, it is becoming more obvious that before we can deal with anything
> properly anyway, we need to be able to properly define what it is.
> 
> How can anyone expect anyone to implement proper abuse policies if
> open society cannot even agree, openly, about what internet abuse even is?
> 
> Andre
> 
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