[anti-abuse-wg] Brian Krebs posts stophaus chat logs of Spamhaus ddos coordination

On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:04:53 +0530
Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote:

> The one takeaway i get from this seems to be that the bad guys are
> perfectly aware of just where they can find loose or poorly
> implemented security and abuse policies - who is incompetent, who is
> malicious, who to abuse, who not to abuse
> 
> And action if any gets taken only after significant pressure is
> applied.
> 
true... as per the convo - easy to find a .ru upstream, etc. 

But, it is becoming more obvious that before we can deal with anything
properly anyway, we need to be able to properly define what it is.

How can anyone expect anyone to implement proper abuse policies if
open society cannot even agree, openly, about what internet abuse even is?

Andre