[address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published

Hi Gert:

I am very much surprise with your reply.



On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:50:30AM +0200, Lu Heng wrote:
> > Chair, do you agree with me? This is policy mailing list about policy and
> > not about individuals or specific companies' activity. Please clarify
> this
> > to the community because this is not the first time personally attack
> > happening here(and not just to me and my company).
>
> Actually I can't see a personal attack here.  I do see provable facts put
> on the table, which might reflect in a way that you might not like, but
> that
> is the usual problem with transparency.  All the data about, for example,
> 37.222.0.0/15 is available in the RIPE DB "--show-version <x>" output.
>

Put up a fact without statement is fine with me, putting up our IP range
from the past is some how personal in my opinion, accusing me and my
company "Abuser" is a statement in the public space without solicit
evidence in which I first did not see the relevance to policy discussion,
secondly it is unlawful as well.


> While I do consider this only partially relevant to the policy proposal
> under discussion, it *is* giving a background on what is happening or
> has happened outside the last /8 range, and some of these transfers indeed
> make the "30x /22 fast-transferred" issue look fairly marginal.
>

Here are two fundamental problem to your wording:

1. The policy proposal under discussion is about protect the original
intent of the last /8, in which the IP mentioned before has nothing to do
with.

2. Because it was legal to kill anyone on the street 1000 years ago does
not justify for preventing pass a law today to prevent future killing,  in
another words, whatever happened in the past should has no relevance to
this policy.


> (And please DO NOT top-post, quoting a full mailing list digest underneath
> - *this* is something which might get the chair slightly angry)
>

I was replied on the daily summary mode of the mailing list, this was just
normal to it, and now I turned it off.

>
> Gert Doering
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Kind regards.
Lu

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