[ripe-list] [ncc-announce] [news] Billing Changes for 2019

On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 00:11, Adrian Pitulac <adrian at idsys.ro> wrote:

> Hello Hans,
>
> Let me remind you first that I do support moving to a yearly billing! Just
> not on this proposed tight schedule.
>
Thats great.  I agree that the schedule seems a bit tight, but I understand
from Gwens message that the intention is to offer a way to do payment in
installments for those with cashflow limitations.  As I understand it it
will be a «change the default» to one bill once a year, with an option to
spread the payments. I trust this will be clearer when the plan is
published.

But your calculations seem totally wrong as RIPE NCC allows us to pay
> through PAYPAL which means 0 (0 USD/EUR) fees for us. Surely RIPE NCC pays
> the fee for our transaction, but even in this case we see excess
> redistribution.
>

If I pay by PayPal it would be more expesive for me as our accounting
system has an integration with the bank to pay bills.
If I do PayPal I have to user a credit card, and expense the amount, which
takes more of my time but also another transaction in our accounting
department.

In either case I might save the cost of the bank transaction (and let the
RIPE NCC pay the PayPal 2.9% fee) but not the cost of handling the 11
additional invoices.

Moving to yearly billing, would mean maybe more excess redistribution, but
> it's not very clear, because the money could be redirected elsewhere. So no
> clear savings for the members.
>

The spending of the money is deceided by the members trough the anual
activity plan, make sure to engage in the discussion in the services
working group.


Hans Petter
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