[ripe-list] [ncc-announce] [news] Billing Changes for 2019

Hello Hans,

Let me remind you first that I do support moving to a yearly billing! 
Just not on this proposed tight schedule.

But your calculations seem totally wrong as RIPE NCC allows us to pay 
through PAYPAL which means 0 (0 USD/EUR) fees for us. Surely RIPE NCC 
pays the fee for our transaction, but even in this case we see excess 
redistribution.

Moving to yearly billing, would mean maybe more excess redistribution, 
but it's not very clear, because the money could be redirected 
elsewhere. So no clear savings for the members.

With respect and gratitude,

-- 

On 12/22/18 21:29, Hans Petter Holen wrote:
> As a member I am conserned that RIPE NCC operates in an efficient way.
>
> But even more important that my company operates efficiently:
> Looking at figures for the cost of processing an invoice for small 
> business owners:
>
> https://due.com/blog/the-true-cost-of-an-invoice-to-small-business-owners/
>
> states that processing a single paper invoice costs between $12 an $30,
> Bringinging it down to $3-4 for electronic invoices.
>
> My guess is that it may be even more expesive with international payments.
>
> In my bank it will cost me 3–7EUR to make an international payment
> (as opposed to 0,25 for a domestic)
>
> So If I split the 1400 EUR into 12 and pay it in installments of 
> 117EUR a month,
> It adds at least 33EUR to the bill in bank charges maybe up to 275EUR
> Which is between 2.3 and 20% to the bill.
>
> So in order to save money I would definitely go for the yearly billing
> in order to save some money on my end.
>
> From Gwens email it is clear that there will also be savings on the 
> RIPE NCC end.
> Since the surpluss is sent back to the members we will benefit even 
> more if RIPE NCC
> can operate more efficiently.
>
>
> Hans Petter
> LIR no.visma
>
> -- 
> -- Hans Petter Holen Mobile +47 45 06 60 54 | hph at oslo.net 
> <mailto:hph at oslo.net> | http://hph.oslo.net

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