<div><div>On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 00:11, Adrian Pitulac <<a href="mailto:adrian@idsys.ro" target="_blank">adrian@idsys.ro</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"></div></div></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hello Hans,</p>
<p>Let me remind you first that I do support moving to a yearly
billing! Just not on this proposed tight schedule.</p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div dir="auto">Thats great. I agree that the schedule seems a bit tight, but I understand from Gwens message that the intention is to offer a way to do payment in installments for those with cashflow limitations. As I understand it it will be a «change the default» to one bill once a year, with an option to spread the payments. I trust this will be clearer when the plan is published.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div class="m_-461245946381203129m_5214547180293498482moz-cite-prefix">
<p>But your calculations seem totally wrong as RIPE NCC allows us
to pay through PAYPAL which means 0 (0 USD/EUR) fees for us.
Surely RIPE NCC pays the fee for our transaction, but even in
this case we see excess redistribution.</p></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div><div dir="auto">If I pay by PayPal it would be more expesive for me as our accounting system has an integration with the bank to pay bills.</div><div dir="auto">If I do PayPal I have to user a credit card, and expense the amount, which takes more of my time but also another transaction in our accounting department.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In either case I might save the cost of the bank transaction (and let the RIPE NCC pay the PayPal 2.9% fee) but not the cost of handling the 11 additional invoices.</div></div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div class="m_-461245946381203129m_5214547180293498482moz-cite-prefix">
<p>Moving to yearly billing, would mean maybe more excess
redistribution, but it's not very clear, because the money could
be redirected elsewhere. So no clear savings for the members.</p></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div><div dir="auto">The spending of the money is deceided by the members trough the anual activity plan, make sure to engage in the discussion in the services working group.</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Hans Petter</div></div></div>
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