[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 Proposals

Sorry, but... your connection isnt correct.

1) UK Land Registry doesnt provide land to anyone! But RIPE doest!
2) UK Land Registry take fee only per registration action and no more, 
but RIPE take membership fee year by year.

Most of offering says about if RIPE take fee year-by-year like a land 
tax, then and fee must be same as land tax - based upon amount of land 
OR land market price!



On 16.04.2024 9:17, Simon Lockhart wrote:
> On Tue Apr 16, 2024 at 09:51:13AM +0200, m.terzioglu at prebits.de wrote:
>> RIPE is non-profit organisation but the small LIRs are paying for the bigger
>> LIRs.
> 
> No - everyone is paying an equal share of the costs of running an Internet
> *Registry*.
> 
> Long gone are the days where you can get IP addresses from RIPE (in any
> sensibly usable quantities).
> 
> RIPE is a Regional Internet *Registry*, not an IP shop or IP broker.
> 
> Using the land analogy, you don't go to RIPE to buy land, you go to RIPE to
> register your (ownership/claim on) land. I don't know about other countries,
> but in the UK we have the UK Land Registry where you register your land. If
> you want to buy land, you go to an estate agent.  Whilst the UK Land Registry
> has a scale of registration costs based on the value (note, value not size) of
> land, it's not a very wide scale.
> 
> If you want more IPv4 space, you don't go to RIPE, you go to an IP broker (or
> purchase it privately). Once you've done that, you register your claim to those
> IPv4 addresses with RIPE.
> 
> I cannot think of any pricing model for RIPE which would result in RIPE
> suddenly having lots of IPv4 addresses which can be re-distributed to LIRs.
> 
> Pretty much every proposal that has been posted over the last few weeks seem
> to have an undertone of "Look, here's some LIRs who have lots of IPv4 space.
> Wah, it's not fair, and I want some of it for cheap from RIPE".
> 
> Simon
> 
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