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Sebastian Wiesinger
sebastian.wiesinger at noris.de
Wed Apr 17 14:24:17 CEST 2024
> On 17. Apr 2024, at 13:31, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 11:33:45AM +0200, Firma KOMPEX wrote: >> RIPE was not well run from its inception. >> Addresses at the beginning of the uprising were distributed without thought >> and by the wrong people who made mistakes. > > I take a bit of offense at this statement. > > We've tried *since 1998* to make sure everyone has access to IPv6 blocks, > to IPv6 trainings, to raise awareness about IPv6, so we'd never even hit > the "IPv4 exhaustion" problem. > > People didn't care, and stuck to IPv4. > > We warned, and reduced the address blocks, to ensure late-comers would > still have IPv4 (and repeated the "go to IPv6" part). > Exactly that. Back then the “big old evil LIRs” voted to give themselves smaller blocks even though they could justify larger ones for their demand. Everything was done to stretch out IPv4 just a little bit longer so that people could still get addresses and might get the idea that they SHOULD use IPv6. Didn’t happen. What happened was that people tried to game the system to get more IPv4 so they could sell it later on. The RIPE NCC and RIPE community did their best to guarantee a fair distribution with the limited resources they had. And the people that took advantage of that didn’t do that by mistake, they did that because of greed. So please keep your alternate history out of this discussion. Best Regards Sebastian -- Sebastian Wiesinger Senior Principal Network Architect Service Integration noris network AG Thomas-Mann-Straße 16-20 90471 Nürnberg Deutschland Tel +49 911 9352 1459 Fax +49 911 9352 100 Email sebastian.wiesinger at noris.de noris network AG - Mehr Leistung als Standard Vorstand: Ingo Kraupa (Vorsitzender), Joachim Astel, Florian Sippel Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Stefan Schnabel - AG Nürnberg HRB 17689 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 4524 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20240417/2c061f5d/attachment.bin>
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