[diversity] Requesting Impact Analysis + Legal Review from the RIPE NCC on CoC 2.0

I consider it very important to use a solid procedure to develop the new CoC given the impact of sanctioning violators. 

At the conclusion of the work on the chair selection process we had some comments from people who expected such procedures to be developed using ‘the PDP’. Hans Petter was sympathetic to that, but the PDP, as it exists now, seems not fully suitable. At the same time, within the NCC, legal seems to be pushing for using ‘the PDP’ too. All this may contribute to some confusion and lack of clarity on how to develop formal procedures within RIPE. 

It remains important to have a clear process which everyone understands. So I suggest that the task force ’spokespeople’ seek guidance from Hans Petter on how to proceed. 

Daniel


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> On 3. Oct 2019, at 17:37, Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet at heanet.ie> wrote:
> 
> Amanda,
> 
> Thanks for this.
> 
> I thought we did have a chair, and I thought that was Mirjam, but I acknowledge it's been a while since this was talked about.
> 
> However we had also tried to have as little... authority as possible, of course.
> 
> That said, should we be sending the May document or the more recent one to the NCC? And, unfortunately, of course, this means that we won't have anything to formally propose at RIPE 79, I suppose?
> 
> I will admit that this is quite late in the day for the NCC legal team to be asking for this. They had sight of the document in May and that would have been the time to start talking about an IA, not less than two weeks before a meeting. Do we know why this suddenly cropped up?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian
> 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: diversity <diversity-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of Amanda
>> Gowland
>> Sent: Thursday 3 October 2019 13:16
>> To: diversity at ripe.net
>> Subject: [diversity] Requesting Impact Analysis + Legal Review from the RIPE
>> NCC on CoC 2.0
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> So, an update...
>> 
>> After speaking with RIPE NCC's legal team on next steps for the CoC, they
>> advise that the Chair of this TF (which we don't have afaik) request an impact
>> analysis and legal review of the RIPE CoC 2.0, which Brian shared on the ripe-
>> list last May for comment:
>> https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/ripe-meetings/ripe-meeting-
>> code-of-conduct-2-0-draft
>> 
>> Could someone (Brian, Shane or Denesh) email legal at ripe.net with the link
>> above to request this and cc the TF?
>> 
>> Now, prior to this info, I had been working (a lot) on adapting the 2.0 text to
>> address the comments received here. I also felt that there was a lot of
>> overlap between the CoC text and the CoC Team doc, so I merged them for
>> clarity:
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqOUPR02SONuSt812cuOBkk_xnhjY
>> zjdk9qmsJkcDdQ/edit
>> 
>> This is a version I'd like you to comment on, hopefully we can move
>> forward...I hope we've addressed the concerns about appeals.
>> 
>> Happy for your feedback.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Amanda
>> 
>> 
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