[diversity] Requesting Impact Analysis + Legal Review from the RIPE NCC on CoC 2.0

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mirjam Kuehne <mir at ripe.net>
> Sent: Thursday 3 October 2019 16:57
> To: Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet at heanet.ie>; Amanda Gowland
> <agowland at ripe.net>; diversity at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [diversity] Requesting Impact Analysis + Legal Review from the
> RIPE NCC on CoC 2.0
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> On 03/10/2019 17:37, Brian Nisbet wrote:
> > Amanda,
> >
> > Thanks for this.
> >
> > I thought we did have a chair, and I thought that was Mirjam, but I
> acknowledge it's been a while since this was talked about.
> 
> Yes, I remember I chaired a meeting where it was decided not to have a chair
> :-) But for practical reasons and as a contact person for the RIPE Chair it might
> be good to choose a task force chair and best someone from the community
> and not the RIPE NCC.

I suspect it would. Of course the big question is "who"? For a variety of reasons I don't find myself in a position to chair the TF, nor do I feel I would be the right person to do so.

> >
> > However we had also tried to have as little... authority as possible, of
> course.
> >
> > That said, should we be sending the May document or the more recent
> one to the NCC? And, unfortunately, of course, this means that we won't
> have anything to formally propose at RIPE 79, I suppose?
> 
> There is currently a speaking slot for the (chair of the) diversity task force
> during the community plenary on Thursday afternoon that could be used to
> present the main principles and changes in the document to the community
> (Hans Petter is going to contact the task force about this).
> But yes, it is probably not ready to come to a final decision at RIPE 79.

Right, that would make sense. I am happy to work on such a presentation with people, but again we need different (and more diverse) faces on stage.

Thanks,

Brian


> > I will admit that this is quite late in the day for the NCC legal team to be
> asking for this. They had sight of the document in May and that would have
> been the time to start talking about an IA, not less than two weeks before a
> meeting. Do we know why this suddenly cropped up?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brian
> >
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: diversity <diversity-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of Amanda
> >> Gowland
> >> Sent: Thursday 3 October 2019 13:16
> >> To: diversity at ripe.net
> >> Subject: [diversity] Requesting Impact Analysis + Legal Review from
> >> the RIPE NCC on CoC 2.0
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> So, an update...
> >>
> >> After speaking with RIPE NCC's legal team on next steps for the CoC,
> >> they advise that the Chair of this TF (which we don't have afaik)
> >> request an impact analysis and legal review of the RIPE CoC 2.0,
> >> which Brian shared on the ripe- list last May for comment:
> >> https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/ripe-meetings/ripe-meeting-
> >> code-of-conduct-2-0-draft
> >>
> >> Could someone (Brian, Shane or Denesh) email legal at ripe.net with the
> >> link above to request this and cc the TF?
> >>
> >> Now, prior to this info, I had been working (a lot) on adapting the
> >> 2.0 text to address the comments received here. I also felt that
> >> there was a lot of overlap between the CoC text and the CoC Team doc,
> >> so I merged them for
> >> clarity:
> >>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqOUPR02SONuSt812cuOBkk_xnhjY
> >> zjdk9qmsJkcDdQ/edit
> >>
> >> This is a version I'd like you to comment on, hopefully we can move
> >> forward...I hope we've addressed the concerns about appeals.
> >>
> >> Happy for your feedback.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Amanda
> >>
> >>
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