[db-wg] ORGANISATION country code

Hi denis,

I have to say that I don't agree with you at all here.
The current state of this is just the same as the org-name attribute which
is user editable in organisations without co-maintained resources.
It doesn't make sense to me to somehow give this country attribute more
weight than the org-name attribute.
It also doesn't make sense to me to have different country code attributes
for orgs with co-maintained resources compared to those without
co-maintained resources.

If you think this is a problem I would say that the better solution here is
to have a different org-type for organizations that have co-maintained
resources.
That way we could communicate that some attributes are verified/maintained
by the RIPE NCC for orgs with co-maintained resources.

Personally, I don't see how having country codes that are unverified for
orgs without co-maintained resources is a real issue, but if people think
that the mixing of verified and unverified data is an issue then I would
propose the org-type solution.

-Cynthia

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 2:03 PM denis walker via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net>
wrote:

> Colleagues
>
> We have a number of outstanding issues from RIPE 85 so let's start
> with NWI-10. Ed said in his update,
> "Country code is now editable in organisations without co-maintained
> resources"
> I think this is a really bad idea.
>
> The country codes entered into ORGANISATION objects by the RIPE NCC
> are well defined, verified and maintained by the RIPE NCC. If we allow
> users to edit this field in other ORGANISATION objects, the values
> they enter will be undefined, unverified and meaningless. Just like
> the country code in resource objects. I don't think we should allow
> more meaningless data to be added to the RIPE Database. Even worse, we
> are mixing well defined data with meaningless data in the same
> attribute in the same object. This will end up with some people
> trusting all of this data and some people not trusting any of
> it...confusion.
>
> I suggest we don't allow users to enter any data into this attribute
> and remove any data that may have already been entered. If there is a
> need for resource holders to enter a country code in ORGANISATION
> objects set up for end users, then let's define a specific attribute
> for that with a well defined meaning. Your thoughts are welcome...
>
> cheers
> denis
> co-chair DB-WG
>
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