[db-wg] phone number required for person objects

I forgot to mention this

> [...], why should we dictate what the mandatory technology is?

I kinda agree with you here if you by "we" mean the db-wg, this might be a
larger question that should involve multiple other working groups too. But
the RIPE community should decide this imo.

-Cynthia

On Wed, May 25, 2022, 19:01 Cynthia Revström <me at cynthia.re> wrote:

> The reason behind this is that email is the de facto standard for internet
> communication, especially between organizations.
>
> I am not sure what kind of ISP/other network org doesn't do email at all.
>
> There are also benefits from requiring everyone to support it as then it
> will always be an option.
>
> Email is also required for abuse contacts, so as long as that's not
> changing, they will need to have some kind of email thing setup anyways.
>
> You also need email to have a RIPE NCC Access account as far as I know.
>
> -Cynthia
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022, 18:38 Leo Vegoda <leo at vegoda.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 9:16 AM Cynthia Revström via db-wg
>> <db-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Even if it could mean that email might also be broken that is not
>> necessarily the case.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> > Many companies use cloud services for email so they might be completely
>> unaffected by their network issues.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> > Also just because something is broken doesn't mean it's so broken email
>> stops working.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> > And of course, PBX systems can also experience issues if there is a big
>> incident with the network.
>>
>> Yes. And many companies outsource switchboard type numbers to
>> answering services with access to a call tree.
>>
>> > You also have to consider that there might not be a PBX system or a
>> dedicated NOC number even for some companies that might still have 10-20
>> employees.
>> >
>> > While I do get your point, I stand firm in thinking that the networks
>> can decide if they want to accept calls or not themselves.
>> >
>> > I would like to know if my network is experiencing issues but we have
>> emails and personally I feel comfortable relying on them to work well
>> enough seeing as they are with an external provider that has nothing to do
>> with my network.
>>
>> If we want to make a particular communications medium required, making
>> it e-mail seems more practical than making it phone.
>>
>> But if we are looking at changing from phone being mandatory, why
>> should we dictate what the mandatory technology is? Why couldn't there
>> be a choice and just a requirement that a choice is made?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Leo
>>
>
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