<div dir="auto"><div>I forgot to mention this</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">> [...], why should we dictate what the mandatory technology is?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I kinda agree with you here if you by "we" mean the db-wg, this might be a larger question that should involve multiple other working groups too. But the RIPE community should decide this imo.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-Cynthia<br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 25, 2022, 19:01 Cynthia Revström <<a href="mailto:me@cynthia.re">me@cynthia.re</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">The reason behind this is that email is the de facto standard for internet communication, especially between organizations.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am not sure what kind of ISP/other network org doesn't do email at all.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There are also benefits from requiring everyone to support it as then it will always be an option.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Email is also required for abuse contacts, so as long as that's not changing, they will need to have some kind of email thing setup anyways.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You also need email to have a RIPE NCC Access account as far as I know.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-Cynthia</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 25, 2022, 18:38 Leo Vegoda <<a href="mailto:leo@vegoda.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">leo@vegoda.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
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On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 9:16 AM Cynthia Revström via db-wg<br>
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> Even if it could mean that email might also be broken that is not necessarily the case.<br>
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Yes.<br>
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> Many companies use cloud services for email so they might be completely unaffected by their network issues.<br>
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Yes.<br>
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> Also just because something is broken doesn't mean it's so broken email stops working.<br>
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Yes.<br>
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> And of course, PBX systems can also experience issues if there is a big incident with the network.<br>
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Yes. And many companies outsource switchboard type numbers to<br>
answering services with access to a call tree.<br>
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> You also have to consider that there might not be a PBX system or a dedicated NOC number even for some companies that might still have 10-20 employees.<br>
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> While I do get your point, I stand firm in thinking that the networks can decide if they want to accept calls or not themselves.<br>
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> I would like to know if my network is experiencing issues but we have emails and personally I feel comfortable relying on them to work well enough seeing as they are with an external provider that has nothing to do with my network.<br>
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If we want to make a particular communications medium required, making<br>
it e-mail seems more practical than making it phone.<br>
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But if we are looking at changing from phone being mandatory, why<br>
should we dictate what the mandatory technology is? Why couldn't there<br>
be a choice and just a requirement that a choice is made?<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
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Leo<br>
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