Re: blocking dialups

[Gunnar Lindberg <]

Excuse me. Are we still discussing The Internet and IP or have we
now shifted Internet service into a set of application gateways?

    web  is to go via the HTTP proxy (enforced Proxy).
    mail is to go via the SMTP proxy (enforced Relay).
    ftp  is to go via ...
    rlogin/telnet/slogin ...
    my-spezial-application ... ooops, no proxy.

Sure this gives a flavor of the Internet, but is it real enough?

My belief is that people get on the Internet to be able to do
whatever they want, web/mail/ftp/telnet/*. At times this happens
to interfere with what other people do NOT want, e.g. spam. If
so, the ISP providing the access has to deal with it, based on
contracts and manual followup. Agreed, this is not for free...

In the case of mail/spam you could refuse to exchange mail with
ISPs that refuse to take this kind of action. Not simple, not
nice, not pleasant and definately not for free. But possible.

	Gunnar Lindberg

>From owner-anti-spam-wg@localhost  Mon Oct 12 11:59:55 1998
 ...

>> I don't consider it dictate. Any ordinary dialup customers must be
>> interested in getting rid of his outgoing mail as fast as
>> possible, which is done by delivering it to the ISP's mail host
>> and let it do the hard work with slow and deferred transfers.
>> That way the customers save phone costs and time.

>Assuming he trusts his ISP to relay out the mails properly and in a
>reasonable time.