[anti-abuse-wg] AS24940 Hetzner -- non-role contact wanted

ac <ac at main.me> you wrote:

>Hetzner is one of the few companies that do
>actually manage abuse and does so very well. And imnsho Hetzner is one
>of the most ethical companies in the EU

As usual, you are entrely wrong in every respect. and in everything you
say.

How exactly is it "ethical" for Hetzner to insist on ratting out someone
who reports spam TO THE SPAMMER?

Do you even know what the term "listwahsing" means?  Apparently not.

Have you ever been DDoS'd?  Apparently not.

It's clear from where I am sitting that Hetzner is perhaps the LEAST
ethical, and most irresponsible Internet company in all of Europe.
And it isn't just me that feels that way.

>When you complain of email abuse, you have to agree that your report is
>sent to the actual operator of the service offered on the resource you
>are complaining about. As this will allow the actual resource
>user/operator to investigate the abuse.

Oh yea.  That's EXACTLY what I want!  I want the criminal bitcoin extortion
spammer to have my domain name and email address and my IP adddresses so
that he can get together with his other criminal friends and DDoS me.

Swell.  Just swell.  This is probably the best European idea since the
one about invading Russia in Winter.

Andre, I don't know who you work for, or even if you work at all, which is
itself suspect.  Maybe you work for Hetzner.  You maybe you just sit at
home in your underwear all day long, thinking up new rants you can post
here about how Google is the Devil Incarnate.  I really don't know and
I really don't care.  You've proven the value of your opinions to every
sensible person on this list ten times over.  So I am actually greatful
for your vigorous disagreement with what I have said, as that alone is
likely to insure that everyone who has been on this list for awhile
will be certain that my comments are perfectly sensible.

And by the way, one can't help wondering what makes you so eager to defend
spammers AND those who sell them services.  You aren't by any chance in
the bulk emailing business, or in the bulk emailing support business
yourself, are you?    Sorry, but under the circumstances I think it is
altogether reasonable to ask.


Regards,
rfg