[anti-abuse-wg] Definition of Abuse - preamble

On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 01:05:41 -0300
"Marilson" <marilson.mapa at gmail.com> wrote:
> > And, Marilson, telling me that I am an example of a single abuse
> > resource, when all I am doing is simply trying to understand what
> > the heck you are talking about (as you are using the wrong English
> > words) is not cool. I did not once call you any names or say
> > anything personally rude about you, I know exactly how fast things
> > can be in a third or fourth or even fifth+ language :(
> 
> Your comments are full of arrogance and veiled insults. And you are
> being a hypocrite in saying that is not rude. End an offense with a
> smiley does not improve your attitude. And you need to understand
> that does not own the truth and must learn to live with
> contradictory. :)
> 

We are discussing Internet  Abuse - and, to be clear - I still have no
idea what you are talking about. Your diatribe makes no sense and
I am giving up trying to figure out what it means as it is simply too
much effort.


> STEAL
> As verb (used with object):
> to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or
> acknowledgment. to take, get, or win insidiously, surreptitiously,
> subtly, or by chance. to move, bring, convey, or put secretly or
> quietly; smuggle. Baseball - (of a base runner) to gain (a base)
> without the help of a walk or batted ball. Games - to gain (a point,
> advantage, etc.) by strategy, chance, or luck. to gain or seize more
> than one's share of attention in, as by giving a superior
> performance: The comedian stole the show. 
> 
> As verb (used without object):
> to move, go, or come secretly, quietly, or unobserved: She stole out
> of the house at midnight. to pass, happen, etc., imperceptibly,
> gently, or gradually: The years steal by.
> 
> As noun:
> Informal - an act of stealing.
> Informal - the thing stolen.
> Informal - something acquired at a cost far below its real value;
> bargain: This dress is a steal at $40.
> 
> As Idioms: 
> steal someone's thunder, to appropriate or use another's idea,
> plan,words, etc. Examples from the Web for steal:
> to steal music without paying a dime for it.
> to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own.
> "We steal our own happiness for no apparent reason," says Danziger.
> “Sometimes they are said to steal only the heart—like Lancashire
> witches.” John Gibson Lockhart. 
> 
> to steal a glance at
> to steal a march upon someone
> to steal a marriage
> to steal away 
> to steal out
> to steal upon someone 
> to steal someone’s heart 
> to steal someone’s thunder
> to steal the show
> 
> I STOLE this... sorry Andre, I PICKED UP this using Internet.
> 
> I will tell you when it is forbidden to use the word stole:
> Great nations never stole, simply took in order to make themselves
> great. (Solon)
> 
> Marilson
> _____________________________________________
> 
> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:06:20 -0300
> From: "Marilson" <marilson.mapa at gmail.com>
> To: "ox" <andre at ox.co.za>
> Cc: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Definition of Abuse - preamble
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> 
> Please, Andre. I'm sorry if I'm forcing you to be so so vulgar that I
> can understand your extraordinary knowledge about abuse on the
> Internet. Do not worry, your technical colleagues will understand you.
> 
> Sorry my low intellectual capacity, but you used the following
> expressions to explain what is not Internet Abuse:
> 
> > No, it is not an abuse group for people whose pc's has been stolen
> > or abused in their homes.
> 
> Now, it is clear that you could also have said: the cat crushed by
> that car is not of account of this abuse group. I'm sorry but I
> thought you was talking about internet.
> 
> When I wrote:
> > If someone had their home PC infected or abused, it's because
> > someone used the means and tools provided by RIRs, Registrars and
> > ISPs.
> 
> You reply:
> > Just stealing a pc - Is called theft...
> > I hope this helps you understand?
> > If not, maybe you can provide a lot more specifics of how stealing
> > a pc is Internet Abuse? Thank you so much!
> 
> Disregarding the excess of arrogance in your words I explained how
> stealing a pc is Internet Abuse:
> 
> > If a computer was infected for sending spam or malicious files, it
> > was stolen. After all we are talking about Internet, right?
> And you wrote in your second reply:
> > If someone steals your PC or breaks into your home to steal your pc
> > It is NOT Internet Abuse... (emphasis added)
> 
> Wow! Now we are talking about breaking and entering to steal objects,
> that is, we are talking about the cat crushed by that car is not of
> account of that abuse group. Compare with the original sentence: ?No,
> it is not an abuse group for people whose pc's has been stolen or
> abused in their homes.?
> 
> You were talking about potatoes and I was talking about orange. The
> difference is that my orange was synonymous of Internet and their
> potato was ... potatoes. Just to be technically clear :) Pall, you
> are a real world example of a single resource abuse. But your
> definition still holds up... Good lucky Marilson