[anti-abuse-wg] Brian Krebs posts stophaus chat logs of Spamhaus ddos coordination

The one takeaway i get from this seems to be that the bad guys are perfectly aware of just where they can find loose or poorly implemented security and abuse policies - who is incompetent, who is malicious, who to abuse, who not to abuse

And action if any gets taken only after significant pressure is applied.

--srs

> On 27-Aug-2016, at 2:39 PM, ox <andre at ox.co.za> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 14:05:38 +0530
> Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Curious - what factors would these be that you identified?
>> 
> But, at least two or more of the five factors are so very clear?
> 
> imho the most obvious is:
> Effectively managing abuse depends on the interaction and relationship
> between two main and different techs of the Internet
> 
> Those engineers that route and those that are system engineers
> 
> The second most obvious thing, in my opinion, may be that if you ask
> ten of either of these what constitutes Internet abuse, you will
> receive at least two and as much as five (or more), different answers.
> 
> and then there are so many other factors, what do you think the factors
> are?
> 
> 
> Andre
> 
>> 
>>> On 27-Aug-2016, at 2:00 PM, ox <andre at ox.co.za> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:41:28 +0530
>>> Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Worth a read 
>>>> http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/08/inside-the-attack-that-almost-broke-the-internet/
>>>> 
>>> Yes, the actual logs that Brian Krebs publishes, of the
>>> conversations, underlines and serves as clear proof of those
>>> factors which serves to obtuse anti abuse efforts. 
>>> 
>>> Until this is resolved, Internet abuse will continue to be
>>> difficult to manage. This makes it difficult for anyone one the
>>> Internet, including the Cyber Criminals themselves, to deal with
>>> Internet abuse effectively anyway.
>>> 
>>> 2c
>>> 
>>> Andre
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
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