[anti-abuse-wg] Brian Krebs posts stophaus chat logs of Spamhaus ddos coordination

On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 14:05:38 +0530
Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote:

> Curious - what factors would these be that you identified?
> 
But, at least two or more of the five factors are so very clear?

imho the most obvious is:
Effectively managing abuse depends on the interaction and relationship
between two main and different techs of the Internet

Those engineers that route and those that are system engineers

The second most obvious thing, in my opinion, may be that if you ask
ten of either of these what constitutes Internet abuse, you will
receive at least two and as much as five (or more), different answers.

and then there are so many other factors, what do you think the factors
are?


Andre

> 
> > On 27-Aug-2016, at 2:00 PM, ox <andre at ox.co.za> wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:41:28 +0530
> > Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Worth a read 
> >> http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/08/inside-the-attack-that-almost-broke-the-internet/
> >> 
> > Yes, the actual logs that Brian Krebs publishes, of the
> > conversations, underlines and serves as clear proof of those
> > factors which serves to obtuse anti abuse efforts. 
> > 
> > Until this is resolved, Internet abuse will continue to be
> > difficult to manage. This makes it difficult for anyone one the
> > Internet, including the Cyber Criminals themselves, to deal with
> > Internet abuse effectively anyway.
> > 
> > 2c
> > 
> > Andre
> > 
> >