[anti-abuse-wg] Definition of Abuse - preamble

On 08/25/2016 03:36 PM, ox wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:28:58 +0200
> Gunther Nitzsche <gnitzsche at netcologne.de> wrote:
>> On 08/25/2016 02:38 PM, ox wrote:
>>> Get it yet?
>>>
>> No. Sorry. :-(
> okay, I will try to explain it better :)
>
>
> Normal bitcoin mining abuse = You --> CPU
>
> Anyway, Internet abuse same principle One resource --> another resource
>
> Get it now?
I know what you mean, but I don't follow you here. I do not
want this restriction and cannot see one reason why you
insist on this.
>> "If you use my server to do something. " Stop.
>> I do not need "another resource". I wonder what arguments
>> you have against my suggestion of wording.
>>
>> I even doubt that the anti-abuse-working-group is limited to
>> network based abuse. Entering wrong registration data (let's say by
>> FAX) could also be covered by this group though it is not a network
>> based abuse.
>>
> wrong registration data by fax - is not Internet abuse (doubtful if it
> even normal or just abuse...)

First: I do not know why you also insist on "internet abuse" - I did not
see
any mention of this restriction in the existing charter of this group
 
Second: It might very well turn into "Internet abuse" i.e. when it comes
to find out sources of (other) abuse related actions. If the whois-record
is wrong, one could identify this registration fake as abuse. (the severity
might vary) So it might be a good idea to have this issue on topic right
from the beginning.

In your definition a registration fake is no abuse because only one
resource is involved *and* because it did not happen via the internet;
in my definition it is and it belongs to the topics of this group.

We can setup a doodle for this :)

As long as we don't hear other opinions on this I step back again ..


best greetings,

Gunther
>> No artificial restrictions please; they might hurt us later on.
>>
>>
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