[anti-abuse-wg] 2010-08 New Policy Proposal (Abuse contact information)

On 10 Nov 2010, at 11:33, Tobias Knecht wrote:

> 
>> Greylisting doesn't cause any real issues unless your setup is badly broken
>> If you're trying to make a point then it's not working ...
> 
> It does. Believe me. ISP-A is greylisting mails from ISP-B and those
> mails will be deferred by only 10 minutes. Over a while customers of
> ISP-B will wonder why mails take more than 10 minutes to be delivered
> and postmaster will wonder why his Qs are getting bigger and bigger.

See my comment about setups .. 

If ISP A sends any volume of mail to ISP B then they will be in the whitelist all the time and the mail won't be delayed at all

If that's not happening then either:
1 - ISP A isn't sending mail to B in any real volume
OR
2 ISP B has a botched setup


> 
> It is not hurting that much, but if you can fix it by creating an IRT,
> you will probably do.

Why on earth would a contact object of any kind have any impact on how people handle inbound mail?

It's a total non-sequitir

If network A is sending junk to network B then network B will probably block network A regardless of what contact points are available 

Even if the contact points are available and you report the abuse chances are that a bad operator isn't going to reply anyway, so I don't see what you're actually achieving

And I'm not going to start blocking mail from any of the large ISPs / Telcos .. 

As the impact on my customers would lead to massive headaches


> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tobias
> 
> abusix.org
> 

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