[address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

>>  rotten apples

Such words regards to unknown person says a lot about you. Quite a lot.

I consider it below my dignity to continue the dialogue with you.

09.06.2015, 19:55, "Ciprian Nica" <office at ip-broker.uk>:
>  I didn't want to point the finger directly to the ones I was referring
>  to but obviously I appologize to all other russians. It's just your
>  company and mr. Bulgakov who have abused in my opinion of the last /8.
>
>  But only because of 2 rotten apples I would not throw them all away.
>
>  Ciprian
>
>  On 6/9/2015 7:43 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
>>   You spoke that "some russians" make profit and don't speak about other nations.
>>
>>   Table of TOP transfers from your last letter shows it clearly.
>>
>>   09.06.2015, 19:33, "Ciprian Nica" <office at ip-broker.uk>:
>>>      On 6/9/2015 7:19 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
>>>>>       help the last /8 pool become even larger
>>>>
>>>>       It's not true. There is still possibility to open multiple LIR's for the same person (legal or natural, no matter) and then merge them all together.
>>>>
>>>>       So this proposal (by itself) is not able to prevent /8 exhaustion
>>>
>>>      Puting an obstacle will probably reduce the "hoarding" so it would
>>>      probably grow a little more than without this.
>>>>>       The only reason that I would sustain it for is the fact that I'm aware
>>>>>       of some russians taking advantage and making a profit but I'm also aware
>>>>>       that's just a small crumble and it won't affect our bread.
>>>>
>>>>       Please abstain from national attacks. It's bad style of discussion.
>>>
>>>      As a RIPE community member I don't have anything against russians. I
>>>      would not call "hoarding" what happens today with the last /8 but here
>>>      is the statistics.
>>>
>>>      +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
>>>      | seller | /22s |
>>>      +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
>>>      | Bulgakov Aleksey Yurievich | 31 |
>>>      | QuickSoft LLC | 30 |
>>>      | Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks" | 5 |
>>>      | Abdulrahman Nassir Alahmari trading as SABAH | 4 |
>>>      | Al Safwa Al Saudia for Development Ltd | 2 |
>>>      +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
>>>
>>>      Theese are the only persons/businesses that sold more than 1 x /22 from
>>>      the last /8.
>>>
>>>      It's obviously that the whole discussion started after noticing the
>>>      activity of the top 2, who happens to be from Russia.
>>>
>>>      Ciprian
>>
>>   --
>>   With best regards, Vladimir Andreev
>>   General director, QuickSoft LLC
>>   Tel: +7 903 1750503


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With best regards, Vladimir Andreev
General director, QuickSoft LLC
Tel: +7 903 1750503