[address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

I didn't want to point the finger directly to the ones I was referring
to but obviously I appologize to all other russians. It's just your
company and mr. Bulgakov who have abused in my opinion of the last /8.

But only because of 2 rotten apples I would not throw them all away.

Ciprian

On 6/9/2015 7:43 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
> You spoke that "some russians" make profit and don't speak about other nations.
> 
> Table of TOP transfers from your last letter shows it clearly.
> 
> 09.06.2015, 19:33, "Ciprian Nica" <office at ip-broker.uk>:
>>    On 6/9/2015 7:19 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
>>>>     help the last /8 pool become even larger
>>>
>>>     It's not true. There is still possibility to open multiple LIR's for the same person (legal or natural, no matter) and then merge them all together.
>>>
>>>     So this proposal (by itself) is not able to prevent /8 exhaustion
>>
>>    Puting an obstacle will probably reduce the "hoarding" so it would
>>    probably grow a little more than without this.
>>>>     The only reason that I would sustain it for is the fact that I'm aware
>>>>     of some russians taking advantage and making a profit but I'm also aware
>>>>     that's just a small crumble and it won't affect our bread.
>>>
>>>     Please abstain from national attacks. It's bad style of discussion.
>>
>>    As a RIPE community member I don't have anything against russians. I
>>    would not call "hoarding" what happens today with the last /8 but here
>>    is the statistics.
>>
>>    +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
>>    | seller | /22s |
>>    +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
>>    | Bulgakov Aleksey Yurievich | 31 |
>>    | QuickSoft LLC | 30 |
>>    | Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks" | 5 |
>>    | Abdulrahman Nassir Alahmari trading as SABAH | 4 |
>>    | Al Safwa Al Saudia for Development Ltd | 2 |
>>    +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
>>
>>    Theese are the only persons/businesses that sold more than 1 x /22 from
>>    the last /8.
>>
>>    It's obviously that the whole discussion started after noticing the
>>    activity of the top 2, who happens to be from Russia.
>>
>>    Ciprian
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