[address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

Probably the comparison was not adequate, I just wanted to point out
some facts. I apologize for that.

Ciprian

On 6/9/2015 8:03 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
>>>  rotten apples
> 
> Such words regards to unknown person says a lot about you. Quite a lot.
> 
> I consider it below my dignity to continue the dialogue with you.
> 
> 09.06.2015, 19:55, "Ciprian Nica" <office at ip-broker.uk>:
>>  I didn't want to point the finger directly to the ones I was referring
>>  to but obviously I appologize to all other russians. It's just your
>>  company and mr. Bulgakov who have abused in my opinion of the last /8.
>>
>>  But only because of 2 rotten apples I would not throw them all away.
>>
>>  Ciprian
>>
>>  On 6/9/2015 7:43 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
>>>   You spoke that "some russians" make profit and don't speak about other nations.
>>>
>>>   Table of TOP transfers from your last letter shows it clearly.
>>>
>>>   09.06.2015, 19:33, "Ciprian Nica" <office at ip-broker.uk>:
>>>>      On 6/9/2015 7:19 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
>>>>>>       help the last /8 pool become even larger
>>>>>
>>>>>       It's not true. There is still possibility to open multiple LIR's for the same person (legal or natural, no matter) and then merge them all together.
>>>>>
>>>>>       So this proposal (by itself) is not able to prevent /8 exhaustion
>>>>
>>>>      Puting an obstacle will probably reduce the "hoarding" so it would
>>>>      probably grow a little more than without this.
>>>>>>       The only reason that I would sustain it for is the fact that I'm aware
>>>>>>       of some russians taking advantage and making a profit but I'm also aware
>>>>>>       that's just a small crumble and it won't affect our bread.
>>>>>
>>>>>       Please abstain from national attacks. It's bad style of discussion.
>>>>
>>>>      As a RIPE community member I don't have anything against russians. I
>>>>      would not call "hoarding" what happens today with the last /8 but here
>>>>      is the statistics.
>>>>
>>>>      +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
>>>>      | seller | /22s |
>>>>      +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
>>>>      | Bulgakov Aleksey Yurievich | 31 |
>>>>      | QuickSoft LLC | 30 |
>>>>      | Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks" | 5 |
>>>>      | Abdulrahman Nassir Alahmari trading as SABAH | 4 |
>>>>      | Al Safwa Al Saudia for Development Ltd | 2 |
>>>>      +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
>>>>
>>>>      Theese are the only persons/businesses that sold more than 1 x /22 from
>>>>      the last /8.
>>>>
>>>>      It's obviously that the whole discussion started after noticing the
>>>>      activity of the top 2, who happens to be from Russia.
>>>>
>>>>      Ciprian
>>>
>>>   --
>>>   With best regards, Vladimir Andreev
>>>   General director, QuickSoft LLC
>>>   Tel: +7 903 1750503
> 
> 
> -- 
> With best regards, Vladimir Andreev
> General director, QuickSoft LLC
> Tel: +7 903 1750503
>