[address-policy-wg] Any-cast or uni-cast solutions

David,

On Thursday, 2012-05-24 09:12:38 -0700,
David Conrad <drc at virtualized.org> wrote: 
> On May 23, 2012, at 11:34 PM, Shane Kerr wrote:
> > On Thursday, 2012-05-24 07:32:02 +0900,
> > Randy Bush <randy at psg.com> wrote:
> >>> The need and the route origination must be in the RIPE NCC service
> >>> region.
> >> 
> >> ahem!  the ncc has repeatedly said over many years that it has
> >> nothing to do with routing.
> > I don't think this is true.
> 
> Actually, all the RIRs have said this.

I'm pretty sure that the RIPE NCC has said that it can't guarantee
route-ability, not that it has nothing to do with routing. Because,
frankly, that would be insane considering the whole point of
maintaining these databases of who can use which numbers is to allow
people to connect computers together on the Internet! Plus the RIPE
NCC runs the ROUTING Information Service (RIS), a ROUTING Registry
Database (RRD), a ROUTING Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) effort,
attempts ROUTE de-bogonizing, and so on.

My understanding is that the RIRs don't want to get involved with
peering relationships between LIRs. I assume that the LIRs are also
quite happy with the RIRs staying out of their business. 

> > So, you may need to meet certain routing requirements to qualify for
> > resources.
> 
> Historically, this was _not_ the case.  Long, long ago, there was a
> bit of a dust up between the IAB and (at least some) RIR folks that
> resulted in RFC 1814. However, that was long ago and policies might
> have changed.

In the very first IPv6 allocation policy, we see the following:

                a. The requesting organization's IPv6 network must
                have exterior routing protocol peering relationships
                with the IPv6 networks of at least three other orga-
                nizations that have a sub-TLA allocated to them.

That's RIPE 196, from the late 20th century. I'm not sure if that
counts as "historically" or not. ;)

Additionally, the AS number form, the IPv6 PI form, and the temporary
PI assignment form in the RIPE region *currently* all request
information about peering relationships. (I think, but am not sure,
that only the AS number assignment actually requires peering though.)

--
Shane