[ripe-list] DRAFT: Principles for Remuneration of the RIPE Chairs

Kurtis,colleagues,

this is indeedone of the scenarios where the remuneration 
arrangementwouldnot work.We should not put a specific way to deal with 
situations like this in the document because we cannot foresee the 
details of the specific situation and we do have the governance 
structures in placeto take appropriate action. See below for a more 
verbose version of my thoughts on this.

Best

Daniel

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In the arrangement described in the draft, the RIPE community requests 
that the RIPE NCC provide remuneration for the RIPE Chairs under the 
RIPE NCC's own responsibility and corporate governance. The RIPE NCC has 
indicated that it is prepared to accept this responsibility and in 
practice it already does this.

The RIPE NCC could inform the RIPE community that it cannot provide 
remuneration for the RIPE Chairs at any time and for any reason 
including the specific scenario you describe. Given the governance 
structure of the RIPE NCC this will not likely be an ad-hoc or arbitrary 
decision. It would then be up to the RIPE community to evaluate the 
situation at hand and either seek other arrangements for the 
remuneration of the RIPE Chairs or recall them.

The specific procedure you propose to deal with one of these 
casesrequires that the NomCom become a permanent committee which 
requires extra commitment from volunteers; it also provides an obvious 
and pre-agreed way for the RIPE NCC to influence the selection of the 
RIPE leadership. I do not think we should go there.

Given the close relations between the RIPE NCC and the RIPE community 
and the formal liaison between the RIPE NCC board and the RIPE NomCom I 
consider the language in the draft sufficient for this to work and to 
prevent accidents.

Daniel
a RIPE NCC employee, speaking for himself as a long time RIPE 
participant and former RIPE NomCom chair




On 09-03-2023 11:36, Kurtis Lindqvist wrote:
>
> Niall,
>
> Thank you for this. I think this is fine, but I have one comment :
>
>> On 7 Mar 2023, at 16:40, Niall O'Reilly <niall.oreilly at ucd.ie> wrote:
>>
>> The community requests the RIPE NCC Executive Board take responsibility
>> for implementing these concrete arrangements.
>>
>> The community requests that the RIPE NCC continues to disclose the
>> total cost of RIPE Chair support including expenses and any
>> remuneration.
>>
> This sets out that the RIPE NCC Executive Board essentially will 
> negotiate an appropriate remuneration for the Chair(s). However, it 
> doesn’t say what happens if they fail to reach an agreement. May I 
> suggest that we add some wording on this, for example that "if the EB 
> does not feel the remuneration requested by a chair is resonable or 
> for other reasons an agreement can not be made, this is to be referred 
> back to the Nomcom to consider if other candidates are better to be 
> considered or not” or something similar.
>
> - kurtis -
>