[ripe-list] Re-opened Last Call for Draft Document: RIPE NCC Staff Participation in the RIPE Community

Dear RIPE List-ers,
Hope this email finds you in good health!
Please see my comments below, inline...
Thanks.

Le mer. 2 août 2023 à 19:06, Andy Davidson <andy at nosignal.org> a écrit :

> Hi,
>
>
>
> Niall O’Reilly wrote:
>
> > /ripe-ncc-staff-participation-in-the-ripe-community-draft-v2
> <https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-documents/other-documents/ripe-ncc-staff-participation-in-the-ripe-community-draft-v2>
>
> I like that there is a document draft and I like that it is short, thank
> you. :-)
>
>
>
> We need to make sure that it is not too short.
>
>
>
> The guiding principle that RIPE NCC team members are simultaneously valued
> community members is correct and has my full support.
>
>
>
> It is appropriate too that NCC team members disclose their position to the
> NCC when providing guidance in a RIPE community setting (p2).
>
>
>
> The document must emphasise the need for RIPE NCC staff to proactively
> manage their conflict of interest risks when engaging with the community.
> Particularly so in situations where a RIPE community working group, task
> force, or committee undertakes projects with activity plan, budgets, or
> headcount implications. It is evident that individuals involved in
> authoring such activity plans or holding positions within the NCC
> management cannot maintain the arm's length principle in various community
> activities. This directly contradicts the wording outlined in principle 1
> (participate on same terms).
>
>
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> As a responsible community, it is incumbent upon us to safeguard NCC staff
> from potential conflicts of interest by defining clear protocols for how
> such situations are considered and managed when NCC staff participate in
> RIPE activities with activity plans, budgets, or hiring decisions.  Can
> this be captured in the lovely succinct way that you have approached the
> first two drafts?
>
>
>
Hi Andy,
Many thanks for stating it so softly, brother :-)

...i, too, would definitely like to see it captured.
It seems, to me, that it would appropriately address the
concerns, strongly, raised by Denis.

...*we* or ianal, though!
Maybe we need a lawyer to join the conversation?
...btw, someone who can think in support for the
community, as including the Staff, would be better :'-)
imho!

Shalom,
--sb.


> I recognise your effort in putting together this document, it is not a
> simple undertaking to author governance material.
>
>
>
> Andy Davidson
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