<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear RIPE List-ers,</div><div>Hope this email finds you in good health!</div><div>Please see my comments below, inline...</div><div>Thanks.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mer. 2 août 2023 à 19:06, Andy Davidson <<a href="mailto:andy@nosignal.org">andy@nosignal.org</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg3833750903713193896"> <div lang="EN-GB" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"> <div class="m_3349891662379458830WordSection1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hi,<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Niall O’Reilly wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-documents/other-documents/ripe-ncc-staff-participation-in-the-ripe-community-draft-v2" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt">> /ripe-ncc-staff-participation-in-the-ripe-community-draft-v2</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt"><br> <br> <u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I like that there is a document draft and I like that it is short, thank you. :-)<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">We need to make sure that it is not too short.<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">The guiding principle that RIPE NCC team members are simultaneously valued community members is correct and has my full support.<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">It is appropriate too that NCC team members disclose their position to the NCC when providing guidance in a RIPE community setting (p2).<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">The document must emphasise the need for RIPE NCC staff to proactively manage their conflict of interest risks when engaging with the community. Particularly so in situations where a RIPE community working group, task force, or committee undertakes projects with activity plan, budgets, or headcount implications. It is evident that individuals involved in authoring such activity plans or holding positions within the NCC management cannot maintain the arm's length principle in various community activities. This directly contradicts the wording outlined in principle 1 (participate on same terms).<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">As a responsible community, it is incumbent upon us to safeguard NCC staff from potential conflicts of interest by defining clear protocols for how such situations are considered and managed when NCC staff participate in RIPE activities with activity plans, budgets, or hiring decisions. Can this be captured in the lovely succinct way that you have approached the first two drafts?<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><br></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><div>Hi Andy,</div><div>Many thanks for stating it so softly, brother :-)</div><div><br></div><div>...i, too, would definitely like to see it captured.</div><div>It seems, to me, that it would appropriately address the </div><div>concerns, strongly, raised by Denis.</div><div><br></div><div>...*we* or ianal, though!</div><div>Maybe we need a lawyer to join the conversation?</div><div>...btw, someone who can think in support for the </div><div>community, as including the Staff, would be better :'-)</div><div>imho!</div><div><br></div><div>Shalom,</div><div>--sb.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg3833750903713193896"><div lang="EN-GB" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_3349891662379458830WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I recognise your effort in putting together this document, it is not a simple undertaking to author governance material.<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Andy Davidson<u></u><u></u></span></p> </div> </div> -- <br> <br>[...]</div></blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br><div><font size="1">Best Regards ! <br>baya.sylvain [AT cmNOG DOT cm] |<a href="https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure" target="_blank">cmNOG's Structure</a>|<a href="https://survey2.cmnog.cm/" target="_blank">cmNOG's Surveys</a><br>Subscribe to the <a href="https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/" target="_blank">cmNOG's Mailing List</a><br>__<i><br>#‎LASAINTEBIBLE‬|‪#‎Romains15‬:33«*Que LE ‪#‎DIEU‬ de ‪#‎Paix‬ soit avec vous tous! ‪#‎Amen‬!*»<br>‪#‎MaPrière‬ est que tu naisses de nouveau. #Chrétiennement‬<br>«*Comme une biche soupire après des courants d’eau, ainsi mon âme soupire après TOI, ô DIEU!*» (#Psaumes42:2)</i></font></div></div></div></div></div>