[ripe-list] RIPE Working Group Chair Collective Meeting Summary

I'm perfectly aware of the difference between RIPE NCC and RIPE. Unfortunately, is not that well understood in the other RIRs.

I think even if my wording was not perfect, it was clear to be understood:

Members of RIPE NCC (and other RIRs), are also part of the RIPE community. To be part of this community you just need to participate. Decision of the RIPE community, in terms of policy making, affect the members of RIPE NCC and all the other RIRs. However, most of the RIPE NCC (and other RIRs members) do not consider "part of their job" to participate in the policy making process of RIPE (and other RIRs).

And to respond on the other part: Believe me, trying to coerce or harass me will not work, on the other way around.



El 9/2/21 14:30, "ripe-list en nombre de Jim Reid" <ripe-list-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de jim at rfc1035.com> escribió:



    > On 9 Feb 2021, at 11:33, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ripe-list <ripe-list at ripe.net> wrote:
    > 
    > it may seem that ARIN and RIPE have more active participation, but if you look at it as % of membership, we are actually "worst" than other RIRs!

    RIPE != RIPE NCC. RIPE doesn’t have a membership. And it’s not an RIR.

    You’re right that participation levels are low but there is no practical way to improve that. If there was, it would have been done. We can’t force people to post to the lists or come to meetings or submit policy proposals. This is a much, much wider problem in society. Countries can’t even get enough of their citizens to vote in elections.

    > A few weeks ago, I was already considering to send a new policy proposal to make some other changes in the PDP. I will start working on that

    I think you need to pause for a few months and then think *very* carefully before proceeding Jordi. You also need to pay attention to the advice that you appear to have previously ignored: for instance the need for clear problem statements. You seem to think you have given a clear problem statement(s). Nobody else does.





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