[ripe-list] consensus defintions

Hi Jim,

I know very well RFC7282 and quoting a piece of it doesn't help.

Only a complete read and understand of the document is useful.


Otherwise, I can refute your quote with another quote from the same document, that shows that objections can still allow consensus:

" If the chair of a working group
   determines that a technical issue brought forward by an objector has
   been truly considered by the working group, and the working group has
   made an informed decision that the objection has been answered or is
   not enough of a technical problem to prevent moving forward, the
   chair can declare that there is rough consensus to go forward, the
   objection notwithstanding."
 

We can endless discuss about that, I don't think it will help.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 9/2/21 14:23, "ripe-list en nombre de Jim Reid" <ripe-list-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de jim at rfc1035.com> escribió:



    > On 9 Feb 2021, at 12:49, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ripe-list <ripe-list at ripe.net> wrote:
    > 
    > Even if only me see those problems (which again is not the case, according to WGCC summary), still there is a chance that with the discussion of the proposal others support it and we can find a point where objections are invalid. This is what consensus mean.

    It does not mean that. You are wrong. Please read RFC7282. I quote: "Consensus is when everyone is sufficiently satisfied with the chosen solution, such that they no longer have specific objections to it.”

    Everyone is not sufficiently satisfied with your proposal(s) - QED - so by definition there cannot be a consensus for them.





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