[ripe-list] a proposal to change the PDP

Hi Gert,

Yes, but not *all those that participated in the discussion and opposed to the proposal* did the same. So, it is not an accusation, it is just *facts*.

Again, not take this as "because this specific appeal": This proposal was written *before* the appeal, just looking in to the appeal section of the RIPE-710. That must be very clear.

What I'm saying is that the actual PDP doesn't enforce all the chairs having participated (or even worst opposed) to the proposal, to recuse themselves. It also doesn't allow the authors of the policy proposal to recuse some of the chairs, which clearly it is a situation that can play against them. You don't know the "personal or business" motivations that a cochair can have against a proposal or authors. It is not rational to allow them to participate.

*The same in the other way around*. It is not rational that if my best friend is going to participate in the appeal is allowed to participate.

The actual wording "allows" them (both sides) to recuse themselves, but not enforce that (if they don't disclose their personal or business motivations may be nobody knows or only the proposal authors know).


Regards,
Jordi
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El 8/2/21 11:33, "ripe-list en nombre de Gert Doering" <ripe-list-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de gert at space.net> escribió:

    Hi,

    On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 09:28:31AM +0100, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ripe-list wrote:
    > [Jordi] It has not been the case in the first appeal we had. Chairs that 
    > participated in the discussion, so voiced their opinion against the 
    > proposal discussion (and of course I agree they should do it), haven't 
    > recused themselves. 

    Now this is an interesting accusation.

    From what *I* recall, quite a number of WG chairs (me among them) recused
    themselves because of (real or perceived) neutrality issues.

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