[ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

It makes absolute sense to pass a resource transfer policy that gives the
resource members the option of not getting dragged along the risky mess
AFRINIC is putting them through.

But I don’t see the necessity of passing an emergency policy when we
already have a resource transfer policy that has been discussed and has
achieved consensus before, so it only makes sense that the board ratifies
the *AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04.*


Best regards,
Lamiaa CHNAYTI



On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 13:39, Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss <
community-discuss at afrinic.net> wrote:

> It is my (personal) view that AfriNIC board should exercise their powers
> and pass a transfer policy.
>
> Let those who wish to run the risks of staying with AfriNIC through this
> situation do so - let those who choose not to accept the risk profile
> transfer out - problem solved.
>
> It is entirely within the boards powers to pass emergency policy which the
> community can revoke at the next pdp should they wish to do so - and if
> AfriNIC has the support claimed by members of this list there is absolutely
> zero risk in this approach.
>
> Furthermore - such an approach would also remove the possibility of other
> legal action which may be taken against them on grounds removed from the
> current legal situation
>
> I remind everyone that AfriNIC has a duty to act in the interests of its
> members - and AfriNIC has repeatedly stated in the press - and has been
> echoed by various ISP associations that there is risk here - it should
> therefore stand that AfriNIC provide members with a way to mitigate said
> risk if it is within their powers to do so
>
> Again - a personal view - and again - I explicitly will not comment on the
> merits or demerits of this case - since I believe that the legal system
> should run its course and be the final arbiter of what is correct in this
> situation.  In fact I find the amount of legal posturing on this list to be
> nothing short of bizarre - let the courts do their work - but let members
> mitigate their risks as they see fit
>
>
> Andrew
>
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> *From:* Taiwo Oye <taiwo.oyewande88 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 1, 2021 3:00:32 PM
> *To:* Paul Wollner <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net>
> *Cc:* arin-discuss <arin-discuss at arin.net>; secretariat <
> secretariat at nro.net>; Community Discuss <community-discuss at afrinic.net>;
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> Members Discuss <members-discuss at afrinic.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service
> migration to other RIRs
>
> Good day all,
>
> I think paul made some sense in his first statement (tho the statement has
> been watered down now).
>
> If afrinic is in a financial fix or in a state where it is tending towards
> a financial situation where it can no longer perform its duties, it is only
> right to start weighing all viable options to keep the registry afloat.
> Paul made a suggestion - tho a bit aggressively - about the NRO coming to
> save the region.
> I will like the community to see this as “option 1”.
>
> Does any other community member have any better suggestion in the (not so
> likely) situation that afrinic does not have the financial capability to
> carry out its duties?
>
> If so, please lay them out for discussion amongst the community members.
>
> If not, Option 1 remains the only alternative to cushion the effect of the
> financial breakdown.
>
> That being said. I think we should think in the direction of way forward
> and have a plan ready rather than crucifying Paul for being proactive.
>
> On Aug 1, 2021, at 11:01, Paul Wollner <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net>
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello community
>
> I think I  misused the word “take over” to spike some unfortunate
> sentiments.
>
> Let me try this again:
> In the interest of internet continuity, another RIR should help AFRINIC
> (by staff or infrastructure), to perform it’s core registration service
> function for the time being, until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted
> to avoid disruption to our African end users and businesses.
>
> Regards
> Paul
>
>
>
> ---- On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:38:32 +0200 *Paul Wollner
> <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net>>* wrote
> ----
>
> Apologies for the duplicate post, but the initial posting was too large.
>
> The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and
> especially by AFRINIC's  own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu,
> which is available at https://ibb.co/tmWCk0k, regarding the AFRINIC’s
> inability to keep providing its core registry functions due to its
> inability to meet its financial requirements.
>
> I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's
> hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core registry
> service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as
> well as commitment to the global internet to take over AFRINIC’s
> registration service for the time being, until litigation is settled some
> time later. (
> https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/joint-rir-stability-fund/
> )
>
> That way, no end user or business will ever impacted however results come
> out of litigation.
>
> Regards
> Paul Wollner
>
>
>
>
>
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