[ncc-services-wg] wrote a generalized response to the "proposals" of Oleksandr Askochenska, Olga Syroya, Oleksandr Buzaev, Ksenia Sokol, horobrifeniksptah, Pavlo B.D. regarding the issue of banning the transfer of IP addresses of Ukraine.

FAP_IMC <fap at fap.com.ua> wrote:

> Unfortunately, none of you dears have provided any suggestions

You have not read this discussion then.

> I do not know how to work with emotions

Are you sure? I can see plenty of emotions there. Emotions of a person
who is not happy to be contradicted.

> What do you suggest, dear #Askochenskaya Alexandra, #Olha Sira,
> #Alexander Buzaev, #Kseniya Sokol, #bravephoenixbird, #Paul BD.?

The RIPE already makes extra steps when a request seems suspicious. As
such, I don't see any reason to add anything else.

If you want to "freeze" your resources, freeze them, don't annoy others.

If you find a transfer to be suspicious, you can contact the RIPE and
they will definitely study the problem.

You also mentioned that this has already happened, so, again, can you
show us?

> Separately, I would like to draw attention to a strange site
> https://www.urdn.com.ua/ and Pavlo B.D., which looks like a
> fraudulent Internet resource that does not comply with three
> normative legal acts of Ukraine and two Laws of Ukraine.

Bla bla. Do not hesitate to send your threats to my lawyer.

Btw, he does not like the site because it does not look stylish, that's
the argument he made on his Telegram channel.

> So, my proposal regarding the meeting is correct, in Kyiv you can
> choose the place yourself, I will meet you with great respect.

Strange, I have some doubt about the "great respect" part.

> I want to recall the proposals of two public associations of Ukraine,
> which I support. Until RIPE NCC develops safe rules for the transfer
> of IP addresses, freeze any transfers IP adress throughout the
> territory of Ukraine.

You need to understand that the RIPE is an international community. You
can't just decide with your community to apply your rules on everyone.

And again, you are totally free to make your proposals, and we are free
to not agree with it.

I'm not interested in meeting with someone that calls anyone who
disagrees with him a bot and other funny names and who believe that
people that are friends and colleagues must necessary be part of an
organized conspiracy or "army" against him. Therefore, I like it better
that you post your angry messages here for everyone to see.

> I will learn something new, or you will tell about the experience,
> always useful, and we will immediately decide on a business trip with
> things to Russia.

I don't understand exactly what this means but I suppose this is some
kind of threat?

Also, regarding patriotism, why are you in the capital? Aren't you
supposed to be on the battlefields?

Now when there will be civilized discussions, without threats
and aggressiveness, and a real will to do things right, then we will be
glad to help. When it's about discussing the best way to censor the
Internet, how to launch DDoS attacks and other script kiddies things, I
am not interested.