[ncc-services-wg] wrote a generalized response to the "proposals" of Oleksandr Askochenska, Olga Syroya, Oleksandr Buzaev, Ksenia Sokol, horobrifeniksptah, Pavlo B.D. regarding the issue of banning the transfer of IP addresses of Ukraine.

Dear Alexander,

I am not an employee of Mr. Tulyev.
And I haven't ever been. :)

If you read my email, please reply on my question. It isn't too emotional.

I wrote here to express my objections to your initiatives to forbid IP
transfers or to create government committee, which would accept transfers
or not.
Current transfer policy is reliable.


Olha Sira

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022, 9:23 PM FAP_IMC <fap at fap.com.ua> wrote:

>
> For the first time, I want to thank the "army" of Mr. Tulyev, who so
> actively joined in supporting Maxim's position regarding LIR and IP address
> transfers.
>
> Given that my job as a parliamentarian is primarily to work with citizens,
> I have of course studied your suggestions.
>
> Unfortunately, none of you dears have provided any suggestions, and I do
> not know how to work with emotions.
>
> Separately, I want to draw your attention to the fact that everything you
> write is not true, that is, you are lying. Why so, they ask me?
> Everything is very simple, it is written by employees of the company owned
> by Mr. Tuliev, I understand that times are difficult, everyone needs to
> earn money.
>
> But I ask you, dear employees, Mr. Maksym, to pay attention to the letter
> from the Internet Association of Ukraine.
>
> https://inau.ua/sites/default/files/file/2210/ref.-no-94-dd-26-october-2022.pdf
>
> This letter was supported by 9 out of 12 members of the board of the
> Internet Association of Ukraine, Maksym voted against it, he has the right.
>
> I would like to remind you that the Internet Association of Ukraine is the
> largest industry association.
>
> I cannot go against the decisions of sufficiently powerful public
> non-governmental organizations, so I also support their proposals.
>
> That is, when you mention me, you must first address the public.
>
> The second public organization APPK also took the initiative, as did the
> Internet Association of Ukraine
>
> https://www.appk.org.ua/ru/news/show/predstavnitsya-appk-v%D1%96ktor%D1%96ya-opanasyuk-bere-uchas/
>
> APPK writes, therefore, with the provision of preserving our resource,
> with the provision of security for our colleagues from unnecessary threats,
> a decision
> is now proposed to freeze all transfers from Ukraine, while all possible
> regulatory mechanisms and the impossibility of risky transfers are being
> discussed.
>
> What do you suggest, dear #Askochenskaya Alexandra, #Olha Sira, #Alexander
> Buzaev, #Kseniya Sokol, #bravephoenixbird, #Paul BD.?
>
> Try, as concerned citizens, to understand the issue and convince the
> public.
>
> Separately, I would like to draw attention to a strange site
> https://www.urdn.com.ua/ and Pavlo B.D., which looks like a fraudulent
> Internet resource
> that does not comply with three normative legal acts of Ukraine and two
> Laws of Ukraine.
>
> So, my proposal regarding the meeting is correct, in Kyiv you can choose
> the place yourself, I will meet you with great respect.
>
> I want to recall the proposals of two public associations of Ukraine,
> which I support.
> Until RIPE NCC develops safe rules for the transfer of IP addresses,
> freeze any transfers IP adress throughout the territory of Ukraine.
>
> PS when the obscure bot Paul BD writes about patriotism, I want to meet
> this bot/human with double power, I'm sure we can exchange exactly the
> military
> experience of defending our territory since the Russian invasion, starting
> in 2014. Perhaps I will learn something new, or you will tell about
> the experience, always useful, and we will immediately decide on a
> business trip with things to Russia.
>
>
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