[ncc-services-wg] back to randy

Hello Randy,

I think there is a tiny difference between a police state and what is
really happening today within LEA (meaning Police but also prosecutor,
investigative judges...) and the national and international legal
safeguards.

We are just thinking on how to agree on a common understanding before
some cohercitives actions are to be taken such as seizure of an entire
network within a company.

In my day to day job, and i'm not saying this universal TRUTH, I have
build relationship with companies that really happy to be informed about
what I'm working on and what is currently running thru their servers,
what, in others countries, could be identified as providing assistance
to a criminal.

I think that what RGPD is bringing is terrific for the good of all,
including LEA that will have to create partnerships with stakeholders in
order to keep the work done.

have a nice day.


Pour une administration exemplaire, préservons l'environnement.
N'imprimons que si nécessaire.

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*Sujet: *[INTERNET] Re: [ncc-services-wg] sara proposal and question to
Randy
*De : *Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
*Pour : *ROBINOT Stephane DCPJ SDLC <stephane.robinot at interieur.gouv.fr>
*Copie à : *ncc-services-wg at ripe.net
*Date : *09/10/2018 18:33
> and, just to make clear from whence i come, let me quote another old
> dog.
>
>     We should not be building surveillance technology into standards.
>     Law enforcement was not supposed to be easy.  Where it is easy, it's
>     called a police state.  -- Jeff Schiller
>
> i.e., if you want the details of my company's contract with the ncc,
> show up in amsterdam with a warrant.
>
> randy

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