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Hello Randy, <br>
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I think there is a tiny difference between a police state and what
is really happening today within LEA (meaning Police but also
prosecutor, investigative judges...) and the national and
international legal safeguards.<br>
<br>
We are just thinking on how to agree on a common understanding
before some cohercitives actions are to be taken such as seizure of
an entire network within a company.<br>
<br>
In my day to day job, and i'm not saying this universal TRUTH, I
have build relationship with companies that really happy to be
informed about what I'm working on and what is currently running
thru their servers, what, in others countries, could be identified
as providing assistance to a criminal.<br>
<br>
I think that what RGPD is bringing is terrific for the good of all,
including LEA that will have to create partnerships with
stakeholders in order to keep the work done.<br>
<br>
have a nice day.<br>
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<b>Sujet: </b>[INTERNET] Re: [ncc-services-wg] sara proposal and
question to Randy<br>
<b>De : </b>Randy Bush <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:randy@psg.com"><randy@psg.com></a><br>
<b>Pour : </b>ROBINOT Stephane DCPJ SDLC
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<b>Copie à : </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ncc-services-wg@ripe.net">ncc-services-wg@ripe.net</a><br>
<b>Date : </b>09/10/2018 18:33<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:m2h8hvcc5n.wl-randy@psg.com" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">and, just to make clear from whence i come, let me quote another old
dog.
We should not be building surveillance technology into standards.
Law enforcement was not supposed to be easy. Where it is easy, it's
called a police state. -- Jeff Schiller
i.e., if you want the details of my company's contract with the ncc,
show up in amsterdam with a warrant.
randy
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