[ncc-services-wg] Policy proposal for services to legacy Internet resource holders

Hi,

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:08:27AM +0100, Nigel Titley wrote:
> This actually raises an interesting issue. Are there any circumstances 
> in which RIPE policy would apply to legacy space? Could, for example, 
> the AP-WG unilaterally propose a policy that annexed legacy space? 
 
I don't think so.  

APWG policy governs under which rules the RIPE NCC gives out (and possible 
takes back from) internet numbers from the RIPE NCC "pool" to "consumers" 
- and this sort of obviously only applies to numbers that the RIPE NCC has 
been given authority over, via the IETF->IANA->RIPE NCC chain of delegation.


> I've heard this suggested several times. And of course, if RIPE policy 
> doesn't apply to legacy space, why are the legacy holders raising a 
> proposal at all?

Now, the RIPE NCC provides services to legacy address space holders that
happen to be in the RIPE service region:

 - RIPE database and routing registry  
     "who 'owns' it and who is authorized to announce it?"
 - reverse DNS delegation
 - potentially: RPKI certificates

due to the way RPSL-authentication and DNS tree'ing work, this is not 
easy to do in a non-hierarchical structure, so "having this done by
the RIPE NCC" makes sense from a technical point of view.

OTOH, I can see that the NCC wants to see some money in exchange for
the expenses running all this (and that seems to make sense as well :-) ).


Now, the policy proposal raised here is not an *address space* policy
proposal, but an *ncc service* policy proposal - which governs the way
the NCC runs their, uh, services.  And I think this is a reasonable
approach - find something that the ERX holder community and the RIPE
NCC is happy with, walk it through an open consensus process, and then
nobody can argue that the RIPE NCC is going out and bullying/blackmailing
ERX holders over their addresses...

(As far as I understand the system, the ERX space would still not be
part of the "normal" APWG policy regime - like "RIPE *address* policies 
have no influence on how the addresses are distributed by the holder's 
organizationo to 3rd parties" and "no audits", etc.)

Gert Doering
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