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[ncc-services-wg] Lawsuits and recovering lost IP addresses
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Max Tulyev
president at ukraine.su
Thu Aug 25 12:11:08 CEST 2005
Hi! It is really good idea to put mnt-routes: into they /16. So customers can't make route objects without permission of /16 owner and their announces will be dropped out. In my neighbourhood if admin-c or tech-c of inetnum write a letter to somebody asking to terminate incorrect announces - they do it. About harm and laws - think about it and make correct agreements with users. Anyway, after agreement is terminated I think IP owner owes nothing to the customer and can use his IPs as he wish. > Not sure which WG to post this so I'll try here. > > Hypothetical case: Suppose there is an ISP that has a /16. They never > informed their customers that the assigned PA address space has to be > returned once they disconnect from their service (see > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ipv4-policies.html#pa_pi for how it should be > done, but wasn't in the past). > > Now when they see all sorts of announcements of /24s and /22s from their > block and they try to recover these lost IPs (contacting the ex-customer or > their usptreams to terminate announcement), they are threatened with > lawsuits that deletion of the IPs will cause irrepairable harm to the > ex-customer and the fact that the LIR never informed the customer of PA > recovery therefore entitles them to keep the IPs - forever - or for however > long they wish. > > I don't want this to be a long thread on the pros and cons and what should > or shouldn't be done. What I am *specifically* looking for is actual > lawsuits and court cases that have taken place in the RIPE sphere in this > area and what the outcome of those lawsuits were. > > Thanks, > Hank -- С Уважением, Максим Тульев (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO)
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