[members-discuss] GM topic

Dear Kai,


Please see my previous mail to Patrick on what has happened between last 
year and today.


On the ability to transfer resources to another RIR, you can see the 
details 
here:https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/inter-rir-transfers/ 
<https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/inter-rir-transfers/>


Best regards,

Simon Jan Haytink RIPE NCC CFO

On 30/04/2024 15:29, Kai Siering via members-discuss wrote:
> Moin,
>
> am 30.04.24 um 13:57 schrieb Simon-Jan Haytink:
>> As an association, we need to ensure we do not become too dependent 
>> on large multinational contributors that can easily move 
>> registrations to other RIRs. 
>
> Well, IANAL, but I'd like to understand why anybody should be able to 
> move "their" resources out of the RIPE Service Region in the first 
> place. If they are not to be used within the RIPE Service Region 
> anymore, clearly the provisions for allocating these resources (from 
> those managed by the RIPE NCC for the RIPE Service Region) don't apply 
> anymore, hence these have to be returned to the RIPE NCC.
>
>> We see and have accepted the fact that last year’s category model was 
>> not without its flaws. To ensure we can actually submit a model that 
>> is as good as possible, we will need time to further consult with our 
>> members, and that could well result in a category or tiered model. 
>> […] Overall, we see and acknowledge the need to seriously review our 
>> charging model, but what we are asking for is time and stability in 
>> the short term so we can put in the required work to come up with a 
>> model that works.
>
> So, what happened between April 2023 and April 2024 in this area? Did 
> I miss the request for input for a new charging model after the 
> proposed category model failed approvement last year? See, I do read 
> your lines, but I fail to see appropriate action by the Board in this 
> regard — only after the current backfire came statements like yours, 
> but that's just too little much too late, imho.
>
> Regards,
> -kai
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