[members-discuss] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 Open House: Recording and Slides Available

My opinion is the same as last year, it's very simple.

If RIPE needs to raise prices a bit do so equally across the board for 
every LIR, but if RIPE is losing the # of LIR's due to mergers and 
consolidations then RIPE needs to downsize the budget accordingly.

Daniel~

On 3/28/24 12:27, sdy at a-n-t.ru wrote:
> I personally, last year I was an absolute supporter of the transition to
> payment based on the number of allocated IP addresses. WITHOUT categories.
>
> But! This year, the economic situation in EU has changed dramatically.
> Therefore, I consider: the transition to payment in terms of resources is
> not relevant and even dangerous right now. The risk of problems for large
> payers in the RIPE can completely destabilize its work. Perhaps we should
> postpone this issue for a few years. Until the end in the coming huge
> economic crisis.
>
>> On 28/03/2024 16:53, sdy at a-n-t.ru wrote:
>>> Hi Sebastien.
>>>
>>> As you say, when you (and some other) talk about "the small" or "the
>>> large" organization, what do you mean?
>>> Let's say there are a LIR with 100,000 IPv4 addresses with a turnover of
>>> 10,000 euros per year and a profit of 5,000 euros and an organization
>>> with
>>> 254 IPv4 addresses with a turnover of 1 million euros per year, and a
>>> loss
>>> of 100,000 euros at the end of the year. Which of them is small and
>>> which
>>> is big?
>>>
>>> Before talking about small and large organizations, you need criteria by
>>> which you will evaluate them and the possibility of collecting such
>>> information.
>>>
>>> Let's, stop this idea until we can't answer  this question.
>> You're right, small and big can mean different things and there are
>> various financial realities.
>>
>> But the only practical metric for RIPE NCC is the number of IP
>> addresses. From there we can only assume that LIRs with lots of IP
>> addresses have enough money for a higher membership fee, and that LIRs
>> with very limited finances just have their initial allocation.
>> Far from perfect, but it is difficult to do better.
>>
>> For sure, taking company data into account would be more fair, but
>> probably impractical. You have the problem of collecting data across the
>> whole service region, and how to consider groups. The problem is even
>> bigger if you want to take profit into account.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sebastien Brossier
>>
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