[members-discuss] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 Open House: Recording and Slides Available

I personally, last year I was an absolute supporter of the transition to
payment based on the number of allocated IP addresses. WITHOUT categories.

But! This year, the economic situation in EU has changed dramatically.
Therefore, I consider: the transition to payment in terms of resources is
not relevant and even dangerous right now. The risk of problems for large
payers in the RIPE can completely destabilize its work. Perhaps we should
postpone this issue for a few years. Until the end in the coming huge
economic crisis.

> On 28/03/2024 16:53, sdy at a-n-t.ru wrote:
>> Hi Sebastien.
>>
>> As you say, when you (and some other) talk about "the small" or "the
>> large" organization, what do you mean?
>> Let's say there are a LIR with 100,000 IPv4 addresses with a turnover of
>> 10,000 euros per year and a profit of 5,000 euros and an organization
>> with
>> 254 IPv4 addresses with a turnover of 1 million euros per year, and a
>> loss
>> of 100,000 euros at the end of the year. Which of them is small and
>> which
>> is big?
>>
>> Before talking about small and large organizations, you need criteria by
>> which you will evaluate them and the possibility of collecting such
>> information.
>>
>> Let's, stop this idea until we can't answer  this question.
>
> You're right, small and big can mean different things and there are
> various financial realities.
>
> But the only practical metric for RIPE NCC is the number of IP
> addresses. From there we can only assume that LIRs with lots of IP
> addresses have enough money for a higher membership fee, and that LIRs
> with very limited finances just have their initial allocation.
> Far from perfect, but it is difficult to do better.
>
> For sure, taking company data into account would be more fair, but
> probably impractical. You have the problem of collecting data across the
> whole service region, and how to consider groups. The problem is even
> bigger if you want to take profit into account.
>
>
>
> Sebastien Brossier
>


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