[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 Proposals

On Tue Apr 16, 2024 at 09:51:13AM +0200, m.terzioglu at prebits.de wrote:
> RIPE is non-profit organisation but the small LIRs are paying for the bigger
> LIRs.

No - everyone is paying an equal share of the costs of running an Internet
*Registry*.

Long gone are the days where you can get IP addresses from RIPE (in any 
sensibly usable quantities).

RIPE is a Regional Internet *Registry*, not an IP shop or IP broker.

Using the land analogy, you don't go to RIPE to buy land, you go to RIPE to
register your (ownership/claim on) land. I don't know about other countries,
but in the UK we have the UK Land Registry where you register your land. If
you want to buy land, you go to an estate agent.  Whilst the UK Land Registry
has a scale of registration costs based on the value (note, value not size) of
land, it's not a very wide scale.

If you want more IPv4 space, you don't go to RIPE, you go to an IP broker (or
purchase it privately). Once you've done that, you register your claim to those
IPv4 addresses with RIPE.

I cannot think of any pricing model for RIPE which would result in RIPE 
suddenly having lots of IPv4 addresses which can be re-distributed to LIRs.

Pretty much every proposal that has been posted over the last few weeks seem
to have an undertone of "Look, here's some LIRs who have lots of IPv4 space.
Wah, it's not fair, and I want some of it for cheap from RIPE".

Simon