[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 Proposals

Moin,

On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 08:48 +0100, Paul Newton wrote:
> With all the focus on how to apportion costs, I hope we don't lose
> focus on the total budget. As a small LIR, we are unable to take
> advantage of the peripheral activities, credits, etc, we just want to
> register.

Which is fine.

> By analogy, we can't afford an all-inclusive package holiday, we just
> want to hire a car!

You are not _required_ to become an LIR / member. You can always enter
an agreement with an LIR that they will handle registration services
for you, holding the registration rights in trust, putting a MNT-BY for
you on the object, delegating rDNS etcetc. All with a contractual
agreement in the back that ensures your right to transfer the entrusted
resources they hold for you elsewhere, while ensuring that the LIR is
not allowed to sell/rent/use them.

So, if you just want to hire the car/resources, me--and likely a lot of
other LIRs--would be very happy to provide that service to you. I'd
even offer to base charging upon an RIR's net charging scheme of your
choice -20%.

The point of membership is more than just the registration of
resources, see also ICP-2. This also connects to the point regarding
'only three options' just brought forward by Sebastien:

We, the membership, voted for a set of activities; The board now
presented options to realize the decided upon activities. If we want
other options for fees, we first need to vote for other activities. We
did not. Ultimately, the "RIPE bosses" is "us", and the board is tasked
with somehow realizing what _we_ asked for.

We ordered the cake, we have to pay the cake. The board just sends the
Tikkie*. Of course, this does not mean that we cannot discuss whether
it must be the same (expensive) cake next time we go out. But starting
the discussion after ordering the cake is somewhat difficult.

With best regards,
Tobias

* In the Netherlands its customary that one person pays the bill when
going out and then gets reimbursed. Tikkie is a popular system in the
Netherlands to send/receive money via direct bank transfer, often used
to share bills in restaurants. Even though other systems now exist, the
term stuck; 


-- 
Dr.-Ing. Tobias Fiebig
T +31 616 80 98 99
M tobias at fiebig.nl