[members-discuss] Voting for RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024

Hi Silviu,

You have misunderstood how IRV/STV works.
If the majority are against charging scheme A, but are otherwise split
across the other charging schemes IRV will ensure that scheme A does not
win.

Thanks,
Q
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On Wed, 24 May 2023 at 11:25, Skyline Telecom <Skylinetelecom at outlook.com>
wrote:

> The voting procedure is “instant run-off” which clearly benefits what RIPE
> wants – Charging scheme A.
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> The other 3 options will cancel themselves out, none of them having any
> chance to gain close to 50% and with the redistribution, the most voted
> option has a clear advantage from the start.
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>
>
> RIPE has on their website a nice video that shows exactly how it’s done
> and how basically Charging scheme A will win – because they intentionally
> made it this way so that the other three options are basically lost in the
> votes -
> https://e.as207960.net/w4bdyj/PsGGMKxV
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> The only way I see in which Charging scheme A will NOT pass, is by
> choosing option 4 on it when voting by as many people as possible.
>
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>
> Silviu
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> *From:* members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> *On Behalf Of *Q
> Misell via members-discuss
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 23, 2023 15:05
> *To:* J Pawlus <Jerzy.Pawlus at cyf-kr.edu.pl>
> *Cc:* members-discuss at ripe.net
> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Voting for RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> It is my understanding that the voting will take the form of STV (Single
> Transferable Vote), which will not cause your mentioned problem.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Q
>
>
>
> Q Director
>
> +44 33 33 408690
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> On Tue, 23 May 2023 at 13:06, J Pawlus <Jerzy.Pawlus at cyf-kr.edu.pl> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Voting for RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024 seems unfair.
> The voting should be two stage. In the first stage there
> should be two options:
>
> Stage 1:
>
> Option 1: “The General Meeting adopts the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024
> based on category model (Option A)
> Option 2: “The General Meeting adopts the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024
> based on non-category model (Option B,C,D)
>
> Stage 2:
>
> This stage should be taken into account if Option 2 wins.
>
> Option B: “The General Meeting adopts the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024
> Model B.”
> Option C: “The General Meeting adopts the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024
> Model C.”
> Option D: “The General Meeting adopts the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024
> Model D.”
>
>
> Otherwise all LIR interested in not winning option A should choose to vote
> for
> one of the options B,C or D (for example B)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jerzy Pawlus
> ACK Cyfronet AGH
>
>
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