[members-discuss] A frank discussion

Dear RIPE community and RIPE NCC members:



You may be well aware of RIPE NCC management's refusal to acknowledge the serious governance issue in AFRINIC and the fact that the management keeps involving itself closely with governmental bodies, ever since the miscarriage of their NRO letter to make AFRINIC a specialized agency of United Nations.

 

Recently, during the ITU Conference, it is said that the RIPE NCC management team seemed to have approached the American government and European Union government as a means to interfere with the ongoing matters.

 

As someone who has had engaged closely with the community for many years, I believe it is of utmost importance for the community to be aware of the seriousness of the matter, and a frank discussion is more than necessary in the upcoming RIPE meeting.



For RIPE NCC to make their case of seems deep interference with government and for me to exchange with the community any views and differences.

 

My dispute with AFRINIC (despite it is sub-judice), is essentially a "policy dispute" between members of RIR and the RIR management. Court pocceding is also part of bottom up community driven process when the dispute can not be resolved amicably.

 

However, NRO's request to make RIR an ITU-like body, and RIPE NCC's apparent consistent engagement with government officials to interfere in the matter, I think it is high time for the community to be aware of, discuss and decide whether such involvement is proper in a community driven, bottom-up registry who has been independent of governmental influences for more than three decades

 

I have submitted an lighting talk for the plenary and got rejected. I have attached the rejection letter here for your perusal. It is disconcerting to me because the matter is of utmost urgency and importance for the community and the RIR system.

 

The purpose of the current letter is to re-state my intention of an open, frank, heart-to-heart discussion with the community. I will appreciate if any working group chair can pick up the subject and do an BoF during the working group sessions.

 

I believe the graveness of the issue requires such a discussion - transparency and accountability are the two core values of this community.

 

 

Here is the letter I received:

 


Dear Lu Heng,



We regret to inform you that your Lightning Talk submission for RIPE 85 titled 'A difficult reality' has not been accepted into the Plenary session.



>From the PC's perspective the presentation does not fit the RIPE plenary. If your submission refers to the role of the RIPE NCC, then we suggest the NCC Services WG as the appropriate venue to start this discussion.

If you want to have a discussion about the RIPE community as a policy making body, then we feel the RIPE community plenary is the right place to go.



Thank you,

Franziska Lichtblau

on behalf of the Programme Committee


 

My reply:

 

Hi

 

The presentation is about ripe community’s view on current actions taken by NRO and RIPE NCC.

 

The matter is extremely serious and I believe ripe community should be aware.

 

And yes, this is about where boundaries of ripe community policy making and how many people should be aware and participate community.

 

I feel current ripe community is not truly inclusive enough for every internet user aware.

 

I think best we have a frank discussion and inform the community, rather have me go to some channels of communication, and community might feel not informed and asking why.

 

And THIS IS REALLY NOT ABOUT NCC SERVICE.

 

If PC have future questions welcome to send me zoom link to discuss.



Lu Heng

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