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Oleg Zinkov
o.zinkov at kyivlink.com
Sat Mar 5 10:59:14 CET 2022
05.03.2022 11:29, alex пишет: > I would like to stipuate that using obscene lexics is unacceptable under any circumstances. For Putin's flatterer... And armed aggression, respectively, is allowed? Your requirements are one-sided. Ukrainian want to work and develop the IT industry. Instead, we have to sit in basements and shelters, hiding from rocket fire. Do not argue, focus on ending the war. >> When I read these stories about democracy, voting, etc. nonsense, I >> cant't believe my eyes. >> >> The soap bubble burst. The world from 02/24/2022 is definitely >> different. Wake up. Sober up. Don't drink vodka, don't smoke grass. Take >> off your pink glasses. They shoot civilians people their houses, cluster >> bombs kill children. >> >> And you're fu*king about democracy and neutrality. >> >> If the world fails to stop the aggressors, let their own people disarm >> them. Go to work! >> >> -- >> Stary Bezpiek >> >> Слава Україні! >> русский корабль иди нахуй! >> >> W dniu 05.03.2022 o 09:03, George Porter via members-discuss pisze: >>> The fact is that Russia has attacked a sovereign country . The Russian >>> army is killing, yes KILLING ordinary people, so RIPE standup and be >>> counted and do what is needed to make Russia feel isolated. Close all >>> ties with Russia. >>> >>> George Porter >>> >>> ins 100x120 >>> >>> Integrated Network Services Ltd >>> >>> 01928 238390 >>> >>> 07956592260 >>> >>> george.porter at in-services.co.uk >>> >>> SUPPLY - INSTALL - SUPPORT >>> >>> www.in-services.co.uk <http://www.in-services.co.uk> >>> >>> This message contains confidential information and is intended only >>> for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you >>> should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. 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Registered in England 7360277. >>> >>> *From:*members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> *On Behalf >>> Of *C A >>> *Sent:* 04 March 2022 20:42 >>> *To:* NOC <noc at medsigroup.ru> >>> *Cc:* ENOG <enog at ripe.net>; discuss at enog.org; Members Discuss >>> <members-discuss at ripe.net>; RIPE Programme Committee <pc at ripe.net>; >>> support at voks.ua; ENOG Programme Committee <pc at enog.org>; >>> exec-board at ripe.net >>> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG >>> >>> Why is this political nonsense polluting my inbox? >>> >>> The chair stepped down. Organise a new chair. >>> >>> If the community doesnt exist it will die on it's own through lack of >>> participation. >>> >>> Stop with the cancel culture shenanigains. >>> >>> On Fri, 4 Mar 2022, 21:37 NOC, <noc at medsigroup.ru> wrote: >>> >>> Спасибо, что поправили. >>> ? >>> >>> >>> С уважением, >>> Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич >>> >>> Руководитель проектов >>> Департамента развития инфраструктуры >>> Блока по информационным технологиям >>> АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ» >>> тел. +7 (495) 737-07-93 доб. 11011 >>> моб.+7 (915) 119-89-58 >>> >>> www.medsi.ru <http://www.medsi.ru> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: ripe at voks.ua [mailto:ripe at voks.ua] >>> Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 11:30 PM >>> To: NOC <noc at medsigroup.ru> >>> Cc: Denys Fedoryshchenko <nuclearcat at nuclearcat.com>; >>> exec-board at ripe.net; ENOG <enog at ripe.net>; discuss at enog.org; >>> Members Discuss <members-discuss at ripe.net>; RIPE Programme >>> Committee <pc at ripe.net>; ENOG Programme Committee <pc at enog.org> >>> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG >>> >>> Если это вопрос - в конце должен стоять вопросительный знак, не >>> так ли? >>> >>> -- >>> www.voks.ua <http://www.voks.ua> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:27:22PM +0000, NOC wrote >>> > Добрый вечер! >>> > А мы тут политику обсуждаем или насущные технические вопросы! >>> > >>> > >>> > С уважением, >>> > Самусевич Евгений Юрьевич >>> > >>> > Руководитель проектов >>> > Департамента развития инфраструктуры >>> > Блока по информационным технологиям >>> > АО «Группа компаний «МЕДСИ» >>> > тел. +7 (495) 737-07-93 доб. 11011 >>> > www.medsi.ru <http://www.medsi.ru> >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On >>> > Behalf Of Denys Fedoryshchenko >>> > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 10:07 PM >>> > To: exec-board at ripe.net; ENOG <enog at ripe.net>; discuss at enog.org; >>> > Members Discuss <members-discuss at ripe.net>; RIPE Programme >>> Committee >>> > <pc at ripe.net>; ENOG Programme Committee <pc at enog.org> >>> > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG >>> > >>> > If there are doubts about the viability of the existence of >>> ENOG, there are proper, democratic voting procedures. >>> > When individuals try to decide the fate of a large community, >>> reinforcing the importance of their decision with their official >>> position or/and personal circumstances, this is not right at all. >>> > >>> > Considering that many of the people are in a difficult emotional >>> state and a state of great stress, which interfere with their >>> ability making proper decisions, i propose to vote on this matter >>> in the fall. >>> > I hope by this time the events will have settled down. >>> > >>> > Peace for all, NO TO WAR. >>> > >>> > >>> > On 2022-03-04 00:43, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: >>> > > Peace, >>> > > (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will ever >>> be, — >>> > > because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace) >>> > > >>> > > As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network >>> Operators >>> > > Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that >>> the RIPE >>> > > Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the >>> potential >>> > > future meetings indefinitely. >>> > > >>> > > Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the RIPE >>> > > Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating >>> Ukrainian, >>> > > Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other >>> > > regional communities in the hope of building a better shared >>> > > Internet space among the communities. >>> > > >>> > > In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), the >>> > > said "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way it >>> could >>> > > be clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a programme >>> for >>> > > all the distinct and divided communities colloqually >>> recognized as >>> > > ENOG at the time. >>> > > >>> > > Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this >>> > > should've gone through a voting process in the PC; however, we >>> > > currently have several PC members under ongoing _missile >>> attacks_, >>> > > and I therefore don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote >>> in the PC. >>> > > >>> > > Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I don't >>> > > believe I should assume there's a consensus in the entire RIPE >>> > > Service Region to still invest trust in me, without further due >>> > > diligence, to hold any official community position in the RIPE >>> > > community; therefore, I hereby step down as the PC Chair. >>> > > >>> > > It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board to >>> decide >>> > > on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board to >>> act. >>> > > It is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to consider any >>> > > future alignments to replace ENOG. >>> > > >>> > > Stay safe. >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > Töma >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > members-discuss mailing list >>> > > members-discuss at ripe.net >>> > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>> > > Unsubscribe: >>> > > >>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/nuclearcat%40 >>> > > nu >>> > > clearcat.com <http://clearcat.com> >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > members-discuss mailing list >>> > members-discuss at ripe.net >>> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>> > Unsubscribe: >>> > >>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/noc%40medsigrou >>> > p.ru <http://p.ru> _______________________________________________ >>> > members-discuss mailing list >>> > members-discuss at ripe.net >>> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>> > Unsubscribe: >>> > >>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripe%40voks.ua >>> _______________________________________________ >>> members-discuss mailing list >>> members-discuss at ripe.net >>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>> Unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/a0044c%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> members-discuss mailing list >>> members-discuss at ripe.net >>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/stary.bezpiecznik%40gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/alex%40mac3.ru >> >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/o.zinkov%40kyivlink.com -- ---------------------- www.kyivlink.com (044)332-95-55 Zinkov Oleg
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