[members-discuss] Placing Members-Discuss in Moderation
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Willem Jan Withagen
wjw at digiware.nl
Fri May 8 18:51:46 CEST 2020
On 7-5-2020 17:36, Emanuele Roserba (Tinext) wrote: > > As a member of the ‘silent majority’ I agree with Sebastian. > > The fact that I remained silent, doesn’t mean that I endorse in any > way the positions of the ‘flooder’. > Perhaps a good reason to register for voting. --Willem Jan > > Kind regards. > > *>>** > **Emanuele Roserba, System Engineer > *email: Emanuele.Roserba at tinext.com > direct: +41 91 612 2224 > > > *Lugano – Geneva – Milan – Dubai – Kuwait City * > > www.tinext.com <http://www.tinext.com> | cloud.tinext.com > <https://cloud.tinext.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/tinextdigital> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/tinext-sa> > <https://twitter.com/tinext_group> > > CONFIDENTIALITY: this message (including any attachments transmitted > with it) contains confidential information and is intended only for > the individual named herein. If you are not the herein named addressee > you should not disseminate, distribute, copy or otherwise make use of > this message. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you > have received this message by mistake, and delete it from your systems. > > *From:*members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> *On Behalf > Of *Sebastian Wiesinger > *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2020 3:40 PM > *To:* members-discuss at ripe.net > *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Placing Members-Discuss in Moderation > *Importance:* High > > > > On 4. May 2020, at 10:06, Chris Izzard <chris.izzard at imcisland.is > <mailto:chris.izzard at imcisland.is>> wrote: > > Dear Piotr, > Reading this it sounds great at first but whatever you do to stop > such huge email chains will always look like censorship whatever > you like to call it. Such email lists do depend on the behaviour > of everyone to follow a code but in practice this is usually not > 100% possible. > Yes it seemed that the email list was mostly in favour of > censoring one person but the reality is that the vast majority > just watched on and said nothing. In practice censoring damages > the democratic credentials of this group because a small number of > people have made the decision to do this and an even smaller > number of people will police it. > This action has put the Executive Board in a dangerous position > open to all kinds of criticism and the email chain contained some > pretty bad claims like Anti-Semitism. > > Hello, > > I see no dangerous position right now. > > 1) The moderation is for a limited time > > 2) You can still see all moderated mails at > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss-unmoderated/ so > there is no censorship > > 3) Multiple calls to adhere to the code of conduct and the topic of > the mailinglist were completely ignored on purpose (in my opinion with > malicious intent) > > 4) The "small group of people" is the executive board that we > democratically voted on, so I don't see how this is undemocratic. I > would even say this is exactly the type of issue that the board should > decide > > On the contrary I (and expect other people) did not say anything as to > not contribute to the flood of mails. I'm very grateful that this list > is now moderated and I hope that this can be lifted after the election. > > Also, just make to make it clear: "freedom of expression" should > prevent the government from censoring you, it does not prevent you > from getting moderated on some mailinglist. On the contrary most > countries have rules that limit freedom of expression and this > mailinglist has rules as well. > > Best Regards > > Sebastian > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/wjw%40digiware.nl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20200508/9df48d66/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: facebook_9255f417-6f0e-4409-af32-85fd7b7774b9.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1764 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20200508/9df48d66/attachment.gif> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: linkedin_24bbdc91-fe17-4f58-9461-3fe18872302e.gif Type: image/gif Size: 2246 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20200508/9df48d66/attachment-0001.gif> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: twitter_d3ef2b73-b169-4f69-992d-fabed76b3a35.gif Type: image/gif Size: 2192 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20200508/9df48d66/attachment-0002.gif>
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