[members-discuss] Placing Members-Discuss in Moderation

On 7-5-2020 17:36, Emanuele Roserba (Tinext) wrote:
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> As a member of the ‘silent majority’ I agree with Sebastian.
>
> The fact that I remained silent, doesn’t mean that I endorse in any 
> way  the positions of the ‘flooder’.
>

Perhaps a good reason to register for voting.

--Willem Jan
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> *From:*members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> *On Behalf 
> Of *Sebastian Wiesinger
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2020 3:40 PM
> *To:* members-discuss at ripe.net
> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Placing Members-Discuss in Moderation
> *Importance:* High
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>     On 4. May 2020, at 10:06, Chris Izzard <chris.izzard at imcisland.is
>     <mailto:chris.izzard at imcisland.is>> wrote:
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>     Dear Piotr,
>     Reading this it sounds great at first but whatever you do to stop
>     such huge email chains will always look like censorship whatever
>     you like to call it. Such email lists do depend on the behaviour
>     of everyone to follow a code but in practice this is usually not
>     100% possible.
>     Yes it seemed that the email list was mostly in favour of
>     censoring one person but the reality is that the vast majority
>     just watched on and said nothing. In practice censoring damages
>     the democratic credentials of this group because a small number of
>     people have made the decision to do this and an even smaller
>     number of people will police it.
>     This action has put the Executive Board in a dangerous position
>     open to all kinds of criticism and the email chain contained some
>     pretty bad claims like Anti-Semitism.
>
> Hello,
>
> I see no dangerous position right now.
>
> 1) The moderation is for a limited time
>
> 2) You can still see all moderated mails at 
> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss-unmoderated/ so 
> there is no censorship
>
> 3) Multiple calls to adhere to the code of conduct and the topic of 
> the mailinglist were completely ignored on purpose (in my opinion with 
> malicious intent)
>
> 4) The "small group of people" is the executive board that we 
> democratically voted on, so I don't see how this is undemocratic. I 
> would even say this is exactly the type of issue that the board should 
> decide
>
> On the contrary I (and expect other people) did not say anything as to 
> not contribute to the flood of mails. I'm very grateful that this list 
> is now moderated and I hope that this can be lifted after the election.
>
> Also, just make to make it clear: "freedom of expression" should 
> prevent the government from censoring you, it does not prevent you 
> from getting moderated on some mailinglist. On the contrary most 
> countries have rules that limit freedom of expression and this 
> mailinglist has rules as well.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Sebastian
>
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