[members-discuss] Placing Members-Discuss in Moderation

As a member of the 'silent majority' I agree with Sebastian.
The fact that I remained silent, doesn't mean that I endorse in any way  the positions of the 'flooder'.

Kind regards.




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On 4. May 2020, at 10:06, Chris Izzard <chris.izzard at imcisland.is<mailto:chris.izzard at imcisland.is>> wrote:

Dear Piotr,
                               Reading this it sounds great at first but whatever you do to stop such huge email chains will always look like censorship whatever you like to call it. Such email lists do depend on the behaviour of everyone to follow a code but in practice this is usually not 100% possible.
Yes it seemed that the email list was mostly in favour of censoring one person but the reality is that the vast majority just watched on and said nothing. In practice censoring damages the democratic credentials of this group because a small number of people have made the decision to do this and an even smaller number of people will police it.
This action has put the Executive Board in a dangerous position open to all kinds of criticism and the email chain contained some pretty bad claims like Anti-Semitism.


Hello,

I see no dangerous position right now.

1) The moderation is for a limited time
2) You can still see all moderated mails at https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss-unmoderated/ so there is no censorship
3) Multiple calls to adhere to the code of conduct and the topic of the mailinglist were completely ignored on purpose (in my opinion with malicious intent)
4) The "small group of people" is the executive board that we democratically voted on, so I don't see how this is undemocratic. I would even say this is exactly the type of issue that the board should decide

On the contrary I (and expect other people) did not say anything as to not contribute to the flood of mails. I'm very grateful that this list is now moderated and I hope that this can be lifted after the election.

Also, just make to make it clear: "freedom of expression" should prevent the government from censoring you, it does not prevent you from getting moderated on some mailinglist. On the contrary most countries have rules that limit freedom of expression and this mailinglist has rules as well.


Best Regards

Sebastian


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