[members-discuss] Good to know

Stuart,

You were asked to go to the sandbox where your friends are at, but you still keep spamming the list, go spam Ripe as you wrote and leave us alone please.

Respectfully,
Elad
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From: Stuart Willet (primary) <stu at safehosts.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 2:11 PM
To: Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io>; Denys Fedoryshchenko <nuclearcat at nuclearcat.com>; members-discuss at ripe.net <members-discuss at ripe.net>
Subject: RE: [members-discuss] Good to know


Elad,



Why do you hate IPv6 so much?

How does a person become “related” to IPv6?

Why can you not simply accept that your ideas are flawed, they simply cannot be implemented no matter how many times you say you will get it done if you are elected.



It’s the same as me saying if I get to be chair, everyone can have a free router hardware upgrade.
As RIPE chair I will just make Juniper, Cisco et-al provide the equipment free of charge because it will make the internet better.

With the power of the RIRs no manufacturer can say no.



I’m sure you will say this is a personal attack on you, or that I am part of an IPv6 conspiracy, or I have secret dealings with a spam blacklist company.



Bottom line is, you have proved yourself to be unfit for office.

You tell members to go sit in a corner, that RIPE is corrupt, you show no respect for anyone with an opinion different to yours.

I cannot think of a worse candidate.



The only possible good that has come from your posting is you alerting people to just how dangerous a person you would be if given any kind of power.



I am now, like so many others, off to file a complaint about you to RIPE.





Best regards,

Stuart Willet.



From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Elad Cohen
Sent: 01 May 2020 12:03
To: Denys Fedoryshchenko <nuclearcat at nuclearcat.com>; members-discuss at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Good to know



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"My personal experience - if the idea(technical) is really good, worked
out in detail and well prepared - it will be accepted from anyone."

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This list showed to you that anyone related to IPv6 will resist IPv4+ , an idea can implement changes that will hurt people enjoying from the current state (such as IPv6 deployers).



Respectfully,

Elad

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From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>> on behalf of Denys Fedoryshchenko <nuclearcat at nuclearcat.com<mailto:nuclearcat at nuclearcat.com>>
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 1:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Good to know



On 2020-05-01 13:33, Elad Cohen wrote:
> Craig,
>
>  You are the one currently personally attacking and I'm asking from
> you to stop and not to spam the list, all I did was to make 3 posts
> regarding what I will show in the General Meetings and then I was
> personally attacked.
>
>  ---
>  If someone feels so strongly about current issues, and has ideas on
> how to combat them, they don't need to be elected to the RIPE NCC
> board to realise their ideas.
>  ---
>  In reality, in order to make an idea come true - power is needed - in
> this case the power of Ripe and power of the other RIR's which are
> connected to Ripe, you are only attacking and you have no clue in what
> you are writing, in how to implement new methods, in how to change
> habits. Without me being in the Ripe Board the ideas will not come
> true and no one else will push them.
As far as I know, Internet standards are accepted collectively, and this
does not require person to be internet czar.
My personal experience - if the idea(technical) is really good, worked
out in detail and well prepared -
it will be accepted from anyone.
And almost always in the process of technical discussion in relevant
workgroups, ideas are adjusted and finalized.
Can we see somewhere a previous technical discussions, in relevant
workgroups, where all these proposals
were discussed, improved and seems rejected for an apparently unfair
reason?

And, in general - trying to force on everybody technically poorly
thought-out decisions using power -
is an extremely bad idea.

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