[members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's nomination and emails

Wow guys there is some intense action going on here. It seems that the best
way to END this is to *STOP replying and reacting*. Go do something else on
the quarantine. For those who are still arguing, get a room and do it
there, you dont need to spam everyone on the list. I dont care about
anything you write here and this is my first and last reply to this thread.



On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 4:02 PM TNC - Alessandro Morreale <
a.morreale at tradingnetwork.it> wrote:

> Is there any good guy that can exclude me from this conversation?
>
> It seems the unsubscribe link I used several times doesn't work and, to be
> honest over 170 messages from this group in last two days it's really too
> much
>
> thanks fof your comprehension
> Il 27/04/20 13:50, Cynthia Revström ha scritto:
>
> Hi Elad,
>
> There are 3 major differences I see here,
>
> 1. rfg presents lots of evidence that you would have been involved in
> shady things (I am not sure if they are true and frankly I don't have time
> currently to look at all of the documents)
> Meanwhile you are saying that people are part of "The illegal anonymous
> Spamhaus Project" just because they disagree with you, and as you have said
> that I am involved in Spamhaus, I would like for you to give me any proof
> that I am involved with spamhaus in any way (which I am not).
>
> 2. rfg called you a "crook", which means dishonest or illegal, which would
> be true if the things rfg stated are in fact true. Meanwhile you called rfg
> a "coconut" which can't be anything other than an insult referring to you
> thinking he is dumb.
>
> 3. rfg called you a "crook" once in a long email after describing why he
> thinks you are a "crook", meanwhile you sent an email that I have posted in
> its entirety below.
>
> > START
>
> Michael,
>
> Ronald didn't insult me because he is mentally-illed, and he is doing it only because I found out who are the real people behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which Coconut Guilmette and Cheerleader Nussbacher are part of.
>
> Respectfully,
> Elad
>
> > END
>
> Please just stop it Elad.
>
> Now I still think it was wrong of rfg to use that word, but it is not at
> all the same thing in my eyes.
>
> - Cynthia
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 1:36 PM Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/2019-September/005301.html
>>
>> These are all complete lies only because I found out who are the real
>> people behind "The Spamhaus Project"
>>
>> You can see how he is calling me there
>>
>> Everything there are lies and fake, the "source" for the fake media
>> report is a member of "The Spamhaus Project" and also an employee of a
>> direct competitor (that enjoyed from that fake media report) of a company
>> which used the netblock, and the "source" is also the owner of that
>> criminal twitter account: https://twitter.com/UnderTheBreach , he is a
>> master of cyber influence operations according to his own words in his
>> criminal twitter account and also a member of your cyber-security community.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Elad
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Cynthia Revström <me at cynthia.re>
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2020 2:14 PM
>> *To:* Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io>
>> *Cc:* members-discuss at ripe.net <members-discuss at ripe.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's nomination and
>> emails
>>
>> Elad, please send me an archive link to the specific email on a RIPE/RIPE
>> NCC mailing list where RFG called you a rude name.
>>
>> - Cynthia
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 1:12 PM Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> wrote:
>>
>> He called me with antisemitic names many times and on many working groups
>> and you said nothing, you claim not to see his messages, but you clearly
>> saw all of my messages and you are monitoring me pretty well. I'm sorry but
>> I don't believe you, specially when you are attacking me personally so
>> heavily with distorting the facts. You clearly so the word coconut - so you
>> also saw what I shared on the same post that he wrote on other groups of
>> people and that he was called a racist and an antisemitic - but you decided
>> to ignore this as well, so you didn't read my whole post - you read only
>> the word 'coconut' and you decided to jump in ?
>>
>> Cynthia, please spread your lies somewhere else.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Elad
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Cynthia Revström <me at cynthia.re>
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2020 2:05 PM
>> *To:* Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io>
>> *Cc:* members-discuss at ripe.net <members-discuss at ripe.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's nomination and
>> emails
>>
>> Elad, first of all, I am not an employee or in any way related to
>> Spamhaus, and I doubt many of the people you have suggested are part of it
>> have anything to do with it either.
>>
>> And because I have things to do that are not spending my entire days on
>> RIPE mailing lists I guess I missed RFG calling you names, but I will
>> assure you that if I was on those discussions I would call him out if he
>> called you a "coconut" or similar.
>> Also just because someone has called you names on mailing lists doesn't
>> mean you get to call them names on mailing lists.
>>
>> - Cynthia
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:58 PM Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> wrote:
>>
>> Cynthia,
>>
>> The sick person which you are referring to and is your colleague from
>> "The Spamhaus Project", defamed me for many many months, here in Ripe and
>> in Nanog, he called me by many names without a single proof. He was called
>> an antisemitic and a  racist not by me - but by people which are not
>> related to me in Nanog. After many months I provided an official response
>> in Ripe. I didn't hear your voice when he defamed me for many many months
>> with him calling me by many names. So obviously your interests are hidden.
>>
>> In the other working groups - I only replied to him, and I didn't hear
>> your voice regarding your sick colleague initial message with name callings
>> towards me when I only replied to his attack on me. And his personal attack
>> on me is exactly like your personal attack on me now - you are afraid that
>> an alternative solution to "The Spamhaus Project" will be implemented if I
>> will be elected.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Elad
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of
>> Cynthia Revström <me at cynthia.re>
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2020 1:50 PM
>> *To:* Sascha Luck [ml] <ripe-md at c4inet.net>
>> *Cc:* members-discuss at ripe.net <members-discuss at ripe.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's nomination and
>> emails
>>
>> > The RIPE *NCC* has no business either enforcing "professionality"
>> on the *community* mailing lists - this is the WG chairs'
>> responsibility.
>>
>> AFAIK there are no WG chairs of members-discuss and members-discuss is a
>> mailing list that the RIPE NCC hosts to let RIPE NCC members discuss RIPE
>> NCC membership related topics, so I think they certainly have business
>> enforcing people to be professional on this mailing list.
>>
>> I would also like to add that Elad has multiple times on different
>> mailing lists ignored the WG chairs.
>> Also this is happening across a variety of RIPE/RIPE NCC mailing lists
>> that are all hosted by the RIPE NCC and as such I think it is their
>> business to keep them to a professional standard.
>>
>> > If I'm wrong, where do
>> I submit the list of people I'd like to see excluded from the
>> community?
>>
>> There should not be a long list of people, but when someone is behaving
>> unprofessionally, calling people "coconut", being defamatory towards the
>> RIPE NCC, ignoring WG chairs, I do think that they have gone too far and
>> everything has a limit.
>> Like we wouldn't allow someone to send sales emails to the mailing list
>> as an example, aka limits on what is allowed.
>>
>> - Cynthia
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:43 PM Sascha Luck [ml] <ripe-md at c4inet.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:02:59AM +0200, Cynthia Revstrm wrote:
>> >I would like to propose that the RIPE NCC ban Elad Cohen from interacting
>> >with the RIPE Community (via Meetings or mailing lists) due to his
>> blatant
>> >disregard for the Code of Conduct and for being hostile towards others in
>> >the community. As the RIPE NCC hosts and manages these lists I think the
>> >RIPE NCC has a responsibility to keep the lists professional and to
>> remove
>> >those who repeatedly ignore what the WG chairs are saying.
>>
>> The RIPE *NCC* has no business either enforcing "professionality"
>> on the *community* mailing lists - this is the WG chairs'
>> responsibility. Nor do I think the NCC should determine who can
>> be a member of the RIPE community or not. If I'm wrong, where do
>> I submit the list of people I'd like to see excluded from the
>> community?
>> I think this proposal is the most out-of-order thing I've yet
>> seen in this thread.
>>
>> rgds,
>> Sascha Luck
>>
>> >
>> >- Cynthia
>>
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